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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material What's a spirit?

    Thread: What's a spirit?


    Ens Entium (Offline)

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    03-05-2011, 03:23 PM (This post was last modified: 03-05-2011, 03:30 PM by Ens Entium.)
    (03-05-2011, 11:58 AM)zenmaster Wrote: But could one equally say that logos is passive, or the exact opposite of what you are saying here? Ra does equate it to 'love', and love allows 'light' (the active principle).

    Light is not the active principle. Light is used and directed by Love. If anything, light only expresses that which love ordains. To me the Logos and sub-Logoi are quite causative. I should've been more clear but by active principle i meant, a principle that has an intrinsic source of activity. .. as constrasted with a principle that is invoked/applied/expressed by some external agent. This is how i tried to capture my idea of 'cause'.

    Some quotes:

    Q'uo: October 13 200 Wrote:It is as though the Creator, or those energies of spirit that are part of the Godhead principle, were offering you the opportunity to examine for yourself if you truly grasped the content of that realization of oneness.
    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._1013.aspx

    Q'uo: January 4 200 Wrote:Indeed, nature is as it is; the creative principle is as it is; the one great original Thought, the Logos, or the Creator is precisely what it is. And yet since that beingness or essence comprises all that is, the creative principle is an immense, or perhaps we should say an infinite, term, disclosing a Being of infinite essence. In the heart of your selfhood, as a person within incarnation, this Godhead principle, this one great original Thought, functions as the self.
    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0104.aspx

    Can you elaborate on why you say the Logoi and sub-Logoi can be said to be passive?

    I get the sense that they're quite active (causative). Logos designs the densities of experience, and that is later refined by the sub-logos, similarly with the creation the cosmic all-mind and subsequently the archetypal mind. They also sustain the creation.

    Q'uo: December 25, 201 Wrote:My sister, your sun is evolving and while the flares and seemingly other toxic activities have been seemingly quite active within your past days, we find that the orb itself, known as Sun or Sol, is healthy and making adjustments which are part of its evolution. It shines upon all densities in time/space but the active density for space/time is rapidly evolving into fourth density instead of third density. This calls forth from the sun light of a much denser quality.
    ....
    Therefore, for us to evaluate it from our point of view we would simply say that your sun is evolving as it should and as it must as it moves through its densities in this octave of evolution.

    Ra, Session 41 Wrote:41.3 Questioner: In trying to build an understanding from the start, you might say, starting with intelligent infinity and getting to our present condition of being I think that I should go back and investigate our sun since it is the sub-Logos that creates all that we experience in this particular planetary system.

    Will you give me a description of our sun?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is a query which is not easily answered in your language, for the sun has various aspects in relation to intelligent infinity, to intelligent energy, and to each density of each planet, as you call these spheres. Moreover, these differences extend into the metaphysical or time/space part of your creation.

    In relationship to intelligent infinity, the sun body is, equally with all parts of the infinite creation, part of that infinity.

    In relation to the potentiated intelligent infinity which makes use of intelligent energy, it is the offspring, shall we say, of the Logos for a much larger number of sub-Logoi. The relationship is hierarchical in that the sub-Logos uses the intelligent energy in ways set forth by the Logos and uses its free will to co-create the, shall we say, full nuances of your densities as you experience them.

    In relationship to the densities, the sun body may physically, as you would say, be seen to be a large body of gaseous elements undergoing the processes of fusion and radiating heat and light.

    Metaphysically, the sun achieves a meaning to fourth through seventh density according to the growing abilities of entities in these densities to grasp the living creation and co-entity, or other-self, nature of this sun body. Thus by the sixth density the sun may be visited and inhabited by those dwelling in time/space and may even be partially created from moment to moment by the processes of sixth density entities in their evolution

    They seem quite active.
    I'm glad you mentioned that though because it moved me to think about this. Another thing one can say is that the regularity of causation of the Logos (Logos/sub-Logos/sub-sub-Logos) is in proportion to how regularized it's emmanations and extractions-syntheses of love/light are. Session 13 of LOO is good for considering this point for the Logos and session 18 similarly so for the sub-sub-logos.
    Maybe it's this regularity in causation that creates an apparentness of passivity.

    (03-05-2011, 01:50 PM)Crimson Wrote: In this particular galaxy, and this particular sub-Logos (Sun), it seems that Logos provides "supervision" up to 3d or up to yellow ray. Then spirit is able to continue its journey independently/or as a joint adventure with 4d, 5d+, 6d (don't know about 7d) with more and more freedom as it reaches higher densities.

    So the spirit contained in a rock is totally dependent on the Logos (and even some mechanical functions in 2d, 3d, etc...) dependent on chemical body complex.

    Thus spirit/s "advances" or moves towards the Creator, using the densities as stepping stones for its/their evolution. Then another Octave and the mystery continues...a great adventure indeed. But at least in this Octave, it seems spirit disseminates from the Origin to infinitesimal regions/densities, then goes back using the steps of colors/light, forming again the original Spirit....then another "heartbeat"/Octave "begins"...

    Lovely Crimson.. and just to add a note to what you've elaborated on there. One could say that there is life and thinkingness present in first and second density to the degree that those entities/forms provide an appropriate vessel for the presence and expression of the macrocosmic spirit complex.

    This is the cause for 'higher' more complex life forms being more intelligent than simple ones. Intelligence originates from the spirit complex. And us humans (along with all other mind/body/spirit complexes) are 'life units', or 'spirit units' meaning that the essence of spirit is holographically contained in our spirits as microcosm. And so a full range of intelligence and abilities is available to us.

    As a follow on from this, you can see how the spirit complex being a contactor of II, being that focus that taps it, albeit in a minor degree and circumscribed by the Logos and sun-Logos, makes intelligent energy ("special powers") available to the m/b/s complex. Agian, one can define spirit as 'cause'.

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    What's a spirit? - by turtledude23 - 03-03-2011, 01:21 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by spero - 03-03-2011, 04:48 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-04-2011, 03:18 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Ens Entium - 03-05-2011, 10:33 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by zenmaster - 03-05-2011, 11:58 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-05-2011, 01:50 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-05-2011, 12:03 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-05-2011, 02:15 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-05-2011, 06:56 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Bring4th_Austin - 03-05-2011, 07:14 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-05-2011, 07:16 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-05-2011, 07:17 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-05-2011, 07:21 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-06-2011, 06:21 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-06-2011, 09:58 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Ens Entium - 03-05-2011, 03:23 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-05-2011, 05:46 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by zenmaster - 03-06-2011, 01:09 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Ens Entium - 03-05-2011, 07:17 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Aaron - 03-06-2011, 12:26 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-06-2011, 12:55 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-06-2011, 02:09 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-06-2011, 11:01 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-06-2011, 12:44 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-07-2011, 04:08 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-07-2011, 01:01 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Aaron - 03-07-2011, 01:09 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-07-2011, 01:33 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Aaron - 03-08-2011, 01:09 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-06-2011, 09:02 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-06-2011, 07:29 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-06-2011, 08:36 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-07-2011, 03:28 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Crimson - 03-07-2011, 04:13 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by spero - 03-07-2011, 04:37 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-07-2011, 04:22 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Lavazza - 03-07-2011, 07:17 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-08-2011, 05:13 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Lavazza - 03-08-2011, 12:32 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Whitefeather - 03-08-2011, 04:39 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-08-2011, 12:44 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Lavazza - 03-08-2011, 12:55 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by unity100 - 03-08-2011, 01:06 PM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by 3DMonkey - 03-11-2011, 12:50 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Confused - 03-11-2011, 01:54 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by Ens Entium - 03-12-2011, 06:52 AM
    RE: What's a spirit? - by 3DMonkey - 03-12-2011, 09:39 AM
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