(03-05-2011, 04:05 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Does this mean it's okay to eat chickens, as long as it killed at at night? It's as easy and peaceful as uprooting a carrot.
By that logic, then it would be 'ok' to kill a comatose person, or a sleeping person. That's just taking advantage of vulnerability. I think you missed the point I was trying to make.
Chickens are vulnerable at night. Humans are vulnerable when asleep, when sick, or when they are children. It's not about vulnerability. It's about whether the entity would choose to be eaten, when faced with the choice. A sleeping human cannot choose to be killed or raped. A chicken at night cannot choose to run away. But an awake, able-bodied human can choose to fight, just as an awake chicken can choose to run away.
Carrots have no capability to run away. It's not a vulnerability but an inherent design. I contend that an entity conscious enough to not want to be eaten, would not choose to incarnate into the body of a carrot. Just as a human soul who doesn't want to be vulnerable due to some handicap, would not choose to incarnate into a body that is handicapped. We've also chosen various catalyst. My Higher Self clearly didn't have fashion model on the agenda for me, since I am too short to be a model. But I sleep, like all other humans. When we are awake, we are able to choose: No thanks, no violence for me today.
Likewise, when animals are awake, they too choose to run away from being killed. Not so with plants. But it's not because of vulnerability at certain times of day, or because of programmed catalyst (like a handicap or short stature). It's inherent design. NO carrots can run. NO lettuces can run. This says to me that, across the board, carrots and lettuces don't seem to mind being nibbled by higher creatures, and maybe they even have chosen this as their service. The fact that plants bring forth life and healing, is a clue. Animal 'foods' bring forth death and disease. Plants, in contrast, provide health-giving foods and medicine. This is significant!
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe plants do feel pain. But even if that's true, then that is all the MORE reason to not eat animals! Many many more plants are killed, in order to clear forests to graze cattle, and many more plants are killed to feed those animals.
No matter how you slice it, it's still much more efficient, and causes much less suffering, to eat plants directly.