In regards to eating meat

[Bring4th_Austin]

Does this mean it's okay to eat chickens, as long as it killed at at night? It's as easy and peaceful as uprooting a carrot.

Chickens are vulnerable at night. Humans are vulnerable when asleep, when sick, or when they are children. It's not about vulnerability. It's about whether the entity would choose to be eaten, when faced with the choice. A sleeping human cannot choose to be killed or raped. A chicken at night cannot choose to run away. But an awake, able-bodied human can choose to fight, just as an awake chicken can choose to run away.

Just to clarify, the chicken is awake the entire time, just completely docile. Even in the face of complete danger, such as a fox or possum sneaking into the chicken house, the chickens make no noise or movement. This is one reason it is so important to have a protective housing for chickens at nighttime.

Carrots have no capability to run away. It's not a vulnerability but an inherent design. I contend that an entity conscious enough to not want to be eaten, would not choose to incarnate into the body of a carrot. Just as a human soul who doesn't want to be vulnerable due to some handicap, would not choose to incarnate into a body that is handicapped.

Just as an entity who would not want to be vulnerable to being eaten at night would not incarnate as a chicken, no?

Likewise, when animals are awake, they too choose to run away from being killed. Not so with plants. But it's not because of vulnerability at certain times of day, or because of programmed catalyst (like a handicap or short stature). It's inherent design.

Isn't the chicken's docile state during the night an inherent design? Like I said, these chickens are awake. I don't know what sort of programming causes them to be so docile at night, but it exists, and has existed long before any of the chickens alive today "decided" to incarnate as chickens. If a carrot is a carrot because it plans on being eaten, why would a chicken choose to be a chicken knowing it would become docile and vulnerable at night, even in a waking state? Even further, why would any meat animal choose to incarnate as a meat animal, knowing its fate were to be eaten, if it did not desire this experience?

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe plants do feel pain. But even if that's true, then that is all the MORE reason to not eat animals! Many many more plants are killed, in order to clear forests to graze cattle, and many more plants are killed to feed those animals.

No matter how you slice it, it's still much more efficient, and causes much less suffering, to eat plants directly.

The chickens on our farm are completely self-sustained, eating leftover veggies we have, and all the bugs and worms they can. So by your logic, isn't it just as efficient and suffer-less to humanely (supposedly painlessly) to consume chickens, killed at night, raised on a sustainable farm?

I'm much more playing devil's advocate than actually arguing my own opinion...I feel there is much to contemplate in this debate. I believe becoming vegetarian and then fruitarian will be a natural evolution for humanity. I thought I could offer an unique perspective working on a sustainable farm which produces veggies as well as meat.