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    04-08-2011, 09:20 AM
    (04-06-2011, 03:31 PM)Spectrum Wrote: Would you like to expand upon what you've experienced taking ayahuasca, or do you consider the experience of a personal nature?

    Edinburgh Wrote:It's legal.

    I believe it's illegal in the 'US' (if my memory serves me correctly, the FDA made it illegal in the 60s), so US drug addicts desiring the ibogaine treatment have to be flown elsewhere.

    In terms of the legality, here is the excerpt from Wikipedia;

    "Ayahuasca plants and preparations are legal, as they contain no scheduled chemicals. However, brews made using DMT containing plants are illegal since DMT is a Schedule I drug. That said, some people are challenging this, using arguments similar to those used by peyotist religious sects, such as the Native American Church. A court case allowing União do Vegetal to use the tea for religious purposes in the United States, Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal, was heard by the U.S. Supreme Court on November 1, 2005; the decision, released February 21, 2006, allows the UDV to use the tea in its ceremonies pursuant to the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. In a similar case an Ashland, Oregon based Santo Daime church sued for their right to import and consume ayahuasca tea. In March 2009, U.S. District Court Judge Panner ruled in favor of the Santo Daime, acknowledging its protection from prosecution under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act."

    (BTW I've never heard of ibogaine being called ayahuasca. And yes ibogaine is illegal in US but legal in Europe and rest of world. I have no experience with it either. )

    Ayahuasca refers to (primarly) Psychotria viridis (Chacruna) or Mimosa tenuiflora (Jurema). (ref Wikipeida). The latter is the most easily obtainable in US/Europe in its root or plant form (legal). You can buy it on ebay.

    In terms of my experience, I'm happy to share Angel

    Previously I had not taken any "drugs". I became interested after Wilcock talked about the pineal gland/ third eye. Hancock wrote about it and in "Supernatural". Ra mentioned the initiation done in the pyramid where a potion was given at the start of the process, and the importance of the indigo/ pineal ray. I read "The Beginner's Guide to Shamanic Journeying " by Sandra Ingerman.

    All these factors led me to online research into getting some ayahuasca and trying it. I'm glad I had read Law of One first. It provided the framework to make sense of the experience:

    One enters time/space. Your ego/ material body is shed. You have an out of body experience ... what seems like hours, only takes minutes in our normal space/time. Many describe the sensation akin to dying, but it wasn't frightening - as I had kept Ra's words in front of me - that all is love.

    My perspective became higher, I viewed myself in 3D from a 6D viewpoint. I saw a lot. About myself in 3D, what I needed to do, how I needed to become, to learn the lessons of my incarnation.

    Once, I sobbed like a child, and felt good about it. Another time, I learned that all led back to love. I really felt it to be true. Another, I became more aware of things I had to do, in order to grow.

    As a result of my experiences, I have become more spiritual to say the least. I have read Law of One three times now. It certainly makes even more sense now. I really spend my entire day looking at the world from the perspective of Love and compassion. I have no anger nor no fear. Quite a change. I'm a different (better) person.

    If you can't find a shamen (I coudn't), then LOO, a candle, some incense, and light rythmic music/ drumming will work fine too. I've done Aya 3 times in a year. It's not addictive. It's not something you do for "fun". It's a medicine for the spirit/mind/body.

    Hope it helps you too.

    Heres is a good link to Hancock talking about "Supernatural" http://youtu.be/hywVWD7yBqs

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    Imminency of 'something' - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 05:31 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Monica - 05-30-2010, 06:12 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Jim Kent + - 05-30-2010, 06:21 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by unity100 - 05-30-2010, 06:32 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by JoshC - 05-30-2010, 09:06 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by transiten - 05-31-2010, 02:05 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Peregrinus - 05-31-2010, 02:05 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by MIstyDawn - 05-31-2010, 03:00 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Peregrinus - 06-01-2010, 09:38 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Lavazza - 05-31-2010, 10:48 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Cyclops - 06-01-2010, 08:53 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Edinburgh - 04-09-2011, 11:03 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Spectrum - 04-09-2011, 11:12 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Peregrinus - 06-02-2010, 11:59 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Namaste - 06-03-2010, 04:50 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by unity100 - 06-03-2010, 05:17 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by AnthroHeart - 07-06-2010, 04:16 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Namaste - 07-06-2010, 07:24 PM
    Graham Hancock suggests 'ayahuasca' - by MtDoraGuy - 06-15-2010, 12:04 PM
    RE: Graham Hancock suggests 'ayahuasca' - by Edinburgh - 04-06-2011, 11:48 AM
    RE: Graham Hancock suggests 'ayahuasca' - by Spectrum - 04-06-2011, 03:31 PM
    RE: Graham Hancock suggests 'ayahuasca' - by Edinburgh - 04-08-2011, 09:20 AM
    RE: Graham Hancock suggests 'ayahuasca' - by Spectrum - 04-08-2011, 06:52 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ali Quadir - 06-16-2010, 08:35 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Richard - 07-07-2010, 04:03 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by fairyfarmgirl - 07-07-2010, 07:36 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Peregrinus - 07-07-2010, 11:16 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-06-2011, 05:14 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by AndresOr - 04-07-2011, 10:38 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-08-2011, 07:05 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Spectrum - 04-08-2011, 07:21 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-08-2011, 07:28 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Spectrum - 04-08-2011, 07:33 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-08-2011, 10:26 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-09-2011, 12:30 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Spectrum - 04-09-2011, 12:49 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Edinburgh - 04-10-2011, 07:20 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-09-2011, 01:39 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-10-2011, 08:14 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Spectrum - 04-10-2011, 02:32 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-10-2011, 03:45 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by zenmaster - 04-10-2011, 04:03 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-10-2011, 04:44 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by zenmaster - 04-10-2011, 04:58 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-10-2011, 05:23 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by zenmaster - 04-10-2011, 06:06 PM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Edinburgh - 04-11-2011, 09:00 AM
    RE: Imminency of 'something' - by Ocean - 04-10-2011, 08:04 PM

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