Spheres and Planes. Clues to Harvest

[Edinburgh]

I see all the same things, and I draw the conclusion that Ra was speaking precisely about physical death. Ra must be loving this . It's funny- you quote Ra to support your view I read it equally supporting my view.

I would tend to agree with 3dMonkey here. Ra does state the physical 3d death part several times, in different questions. Don obviously wants to get to the bottom of the change as it affects us physically, and he trys to get a firm answer. Every time, Ra is quite clear on it. Our physical bodies die as we understand death.

The next stage is for our violet ray to be assessed, and we either go to a positive or negative 4D world, or go back to a 3D world as appropriate.

The first time I read in the Ra material that we were to die before experiencing 4D, I was sad. I watched Wilcocks 3 hour speeches on youtube thinking I had had gotten it wrong. Wilcock professes to hold the Ra material central to his thinking, and states we won't "die" but will "develop powers". His comments seem like wishful thinking now, especially after I went back and re-read LOO two more times. No matter how much I wanted to believe in Wilcock, I couldn't not believe what I was reading with my own eyes, in the Ra material; Our physical bodies and current identities will pass through a 3D death. (However, I do remember reading that in 4D we have access to our previous 3D memories.)

(UPDATE: I've since looked at a new Qu'o reading, posting on the 3D/4D as perception thread, and I think there might be more happening than just dying ... )

Now I am much calmer about the whole thing. This transition will be happening soon. Qu'o says Winter solstice 2011. Ra says 2011-2012.

After reading LOO and really believing in it, I spend my time meditating and living a life with love, at all times and all moments. Trying to understand the lessons I came here to learn. To really understand the heart of self, and to share that understanding with other selves.

Maybe we will all meet each other again soon... We'll make jokes about how we all met on the Bring4th forum ...