Sexual Revolution

[Bring4th_Austin]

Abridgetoofar,

In addition to your understanding of Preincarnate planning, I think you should explore your choice in partner. Well, really, explore why and where you typically see your place within a partnership. You chose girls that weren't explorers, for lack of a better description. Why? What was your perceived role in such a relationship? I think there is carry over from before incarnation, but you can't find what that is unless you explore it. A number of possibilities- fear of something, karmic obligation from previous life of abusing women, a previous life of protecting abused women, etc. It can go on and on. I only suggest you explore yourself and your suggestions.


On a completely different note, how do you feel about homosexuality?

As far as the nature of the relationships I did have, I feel like while they themselves weren't necessarily preincarnative planning, I was offered the experience because they fell within the preincarnative agreements. They were not necessarily "non-explorers," as the sexual side of both relationships was healthy and active. It simply didn't allow me to understand the nature of sex, mainly in a spiritual sense. They were also typical teenage romances...innocent and fun, and an outlet for hormonal and sexual curiosity. They were exclusive and dedicated, but I don't imagine they were anything like a normal partnership I'd expect to find in an adult relationship.

Karmic obligation? Possibly...I, as this physical personality, couldn't imagine being abusive to anyone or anything, including women specifically, but who knows the troubles I had during previous 3D experiences? I've never dove into my past lives because I think it's important to concentrate on this incarnation. If it was karmic obligation, I think I did well to alleviate the karma, because I was very respectful of their decisions and didn't pressure them at all into doing something they didn't want to.

I have not contemplated this during meditation though, so thank you my friend for the idea. It will be good food for contemplation.

As for homosexuality, I hardly even view it as anything different from heterosexuality. As we are elevated from our primal instincts, we realize that sexual relationships are much more energetic than physical. Thus, if two energies are sexually compatible, it shouldn't matter whether they're a woman or a man.

I myself feel I am one of those wired very much heterosexual, though I came into this world and I still am fairly androgynous. I try to hold a good balance of feminine and masculine energy, however I just can't be sexually aroused by another man. Never had a fantasy, vision, or dream of homosexual nature. However, and I am definitely not directing this at the discussions being had here, I feel discussing homosexual love as different from heterosexual love creates separation. Love is love, and I dream of an Earth one day where no one is afraid to express their love however they desire.

Abridgetoofar, your perspective is so refreshing! I think it's wonderful that you've put so much thought into what you want out of a sexual relationship, enough to abstain if it doesn't feel like it's for the right reason. Most of the guys I know turn into sex zombies if they go a week without it. It becomes all they can talk about, and they'll start hurling themselves at anyone they think they might have a chance with, because they pursue sex in a compulsive fashion. Even seekers who understand the spiritual principles behind sex will often feel that going too long without it is going to put them into some kind of hole.

I'm not trying to bash men here. I've known women who were just as bad. I'm just relaying my experiences, and hearing you say the things you have gives me tremendous respect for you. I think that once you find what you are looking for, it is going to be very awesome for you!

I too hold this stereotype of men, I guess because most of my male friends act exactly as you described.

I really appreciate your kind words They help me continue to carry the positive attitude onward in my life regarding my past experiences, and for this I thank you greatly.

I've only had sex with one person, though I certainly explored sexual feelings before that. Like you, we just never went all the way. Then when I met my husband we had sex on our first date. It seems foolish, especially since I had turned down other opportunities out of the desire to wait for something meaningful instead of compulsive physical gratification, but when we met we instantly connected on the blue ray level. It really was love at first sight, and has only grown stronger every day since. It seems like we MUST have known each other before this incarnation, to immediately jump into such an intimate, open relationship It seems like when the time was right, a huge magnet just pulled us together.

It definitely sounds like your relationship was divinely planned. Obviously, having sex on the first date turned out to not be a mistake! It's awesome you knew so soon that there was a strong connection there.

At times I've regretted sealing myself into having sex with only one person. If anything,the curiosity can drive me mad sometimes.

I've definitely felt the curiosity you speak about. It's another thing that my experience has allowed me to temper. Of course, my curiosity about sex persists as it does with all things in life, but it does not burn inside of me any more.

However, I don't think I'm capable of "casual sex." I couldn't just have a fling with a person then go back to my life like it didn't happen. Well, I'm sure I could, but I would be miserable. I've certainly fantasized about it, but I don't think I'm capable of having sex without forming attachment. Sex is one part of the whole in a meaningful relationship to me. Without the relationship behind it, it seems disjointed.

Now, if you had a whole group of people who were all very close to each other, very connected, I could easily conceive of them having an open sexual situation (this seems to be how Ra went about it). However, society has dumped so many preconceived stereotypes on us that I think this would be hard to achieve without severe distortion on this planet at this time. This idea that marriage or even just a solid relationship = ownership has been driven into our heads for centuries on end...it's going to take some serious effort to overcome those programmed biases as a people in general.

We share these thoughts about casual sex. Indeed there is a big difference from meaningless, casual sex (which usually seems to step from lower blockages), and being sexually open.

Walt and I have taken very small steps in releasing this ownership concept, but he has a hard time understanding how having sex with someone else wouldn't mean there was less love for him. And as much as I'd like to say I'm all open minded and wouldn't care if he loved other women along with me, I would. It would bother me. But we've spent long hours discussing the concepts behind free love, and I'd say we're taking baby steps at least.

Simply discussing these things, in my eyes, is a huge step. Perhaps it is the only step you need to take in this lifetime? It will be a gradual thing for society, and it starts with simple discussions. Just by discussing it you are creating energy, and possibility for change.

We can enter into relationships with agreements, because restrictions add to unique experience (that's why 3D is so restrictive it seems!). If you're happy being with one person, and they are happy being with just you, then that is as healthy to me as an open relationship. It's when we feel like we have to bury or hide our feelings or actions from our partner that I think it becomes unhealthy.

I never understood the aspect of "cheating"...if you don't want to be dedicated to just one person, why say that you do? You are lying to yourself and your partner.

Thank you ahktu, for your kind words and insight. I am inspired by your relationship with Walt, and it makes me happy to see such healthy communication and interaction in a relationship.