04-18-2011, 04:21 PM
(04-18-2011, 03:41 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: What does hygeine have to do with free will?

Stop lecturing me

(04-18-2011, 03:41 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: What's the difference between forcing someone and infringing their free will? My dad forced me to play sports even though I didn't like them. He didn't hold a gun to my head but I protested many times and he brushed it off. Did the sports help me? I don't think they did, but he was convinced I should do them. Ra said something along the lines of: don't infringe your children's free will in any way other than teaching them how you pray.
I don't know what the difference is, but I feel like there is one. My kids wouldn't ever clean themselves if I didn't make them. They'd get disease and probably die from disease. I suppose I could let this happen. In fact, I could let this happen, but I don't think they would appreciate that. In fact, I could just walk out and let them fend for themselves, free will and all.
I know a mother who uses this tactic. She gives her children choices and explains what could be possible consequences. Either the consequences are their own physical dangers or they are affecting others' emotions. Kids do what they want with no care. What she doesn't realize is that she is teaching passive aggressiveness, because disappointing Mommy has its own set of invisible consequences. She turns a blind eye to this part of her teaching, not realizing that her children are adopting her behavior.
So we lead by example. That's what children truly learn by. Example. We follow the status quo as we see it from our perspective. IMO, this is the only real learning. What did we really learn at school? Systems suck, because the teachers hate the system too. Oppression is rampant, because teachers are oppressed too. We learn what we see, and what we see the most of impresses us the most.
I'll stop.
Love you. Rant thread.