In regards to eating meat

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Also, an animal is no more alone than any of us are at any point, there are always helping and guiding entities to assist whenever necessary.

no such information was given in Ra material. only 3d entities have 3 guides present with them at any given point.

As you said, our 3D reality is an illusion, which means that the experiential stimili are also illusory in nature, they are only effects of much "higher" causes.

then, positive and negative polarities, and all the stuff that is experienced in 3d would be dubbed 'illusions', and therefore everything would totally become invalid and unimportant due to that.

in addition, all densities reflect a certain property of creation, we are told. no density is an 'illusion'. since all entities are created with the same blueprint that repeats from the first initial logos to the entities in earlier octaves, no density has different 'illusory' level than the other. they are all valid and building blocks of whatever is in higher densities.

You imagine yourself as the animal and decide that that sort of condition would be undesirable for you based on the experience of pain. However, that is largely due to your own distortion towards the idea that pain is negative in nature.

it is quite normal, since as we are told, most of 2d bodies are capable of 3d existence, and this is the way how 3d is conducted in general. for a general body format, only for 4d a definition of 'bipedal hominoid' is given. and in addition, only 3-4% of (if im not mistaken in exact number) the body types in use in 3d was told to resemble anything we could recognize. this means, 3d bodies greatly vary and they are direct descendants of higher 2d bodies.

conclusion of this - a 3d entity perfectly knows, and remembers what physical pain is, and the reasons to avoid it. because, a 3d body is almost a 2d body, in practicality. the difference (particularly in this planet) is, the ability to manipulate objects and environment is much heightened.

If the meat from an animal is consumed by a human then ultimately would not the polarization depend on what the human used that obtained energy for?

such a logic would have to be applicable elsewhere :

"if the end result is good, the means do not matter much"

meaning, you can justify anything as long as the end result is good. gandalf in lord of the rings, gives a perfect response for this, to saruman, when he utters same philosophy.

no - means matter. even if the end aim is perfectly pure, it will be affected and changed by the means used to achieve it.

Also, animals die to feed regardless of whether or not it is by natural aging, disease or otherwise. They still go to feed bacteria, fungus, flies and all the myriads of decompositional creatures that inhabit our world. There are still predators in the wild, and humans distinctly possess canines and incisors as well as flat teeth, which I think is strong evidence for omnivorous nature.

you can also use tools to kill people, steal their belongings, or outright evaporate a city by detonating a nuclear device.

however, being capable of, doesnt mean that you should be doing those.

You speak of the Law of One as though it is separate from experience, yet you are arguing something that is nothing more than a perspective, can you deny my experience under the Law of One? Loyalty to the Confederation's teachings should not be confused with the scope of the One. It is intention that creates polarization, not just actions, actions are just the effects of intentions. Perhaps those whom slaughter receive negative polarization, but if I eat meat bought at a store with the intention to positively utilize its energy and proteins will that not be something of gratitude and appreciation for the sacrifice, volunteery or not, of the animal?

then, with your logic, someone can easily claim that they are enslaving people, in order to guide and herd them through the densities, and it would be all valid and positive.

Also, to my understanding service to others and service to self all still serve the self. Both are mutual, just a difference in focus, internal vs external. You help others to help the self, and those who help themselves help others, this is a point I believe Ra has been specific on.

that specific point only exists from the perspective of the 'one' you speak of. however, neither you, or any other is 'the one' yet, nor, any of them will be towards infinity, because it takes an infinite amount of time for a finite to reach infinity.

therefore, from our perspective, self, and others exist. dubbing this an illusion is irrelevant from our perspective and existence. we are not 'one' yet - we are its parts.

therefore, in philosophy, what you speak of holds true, but in practice, it will never hold true.

Of course, what exactly is the purpose of choosing either an STO or STS path? Where is the distinction truly drawn? Does it matter what you do, how you feel, what you intend or what you think? The images of each path must also be separated, service to self implies enslavement and self worship, yet we have all accepted the distortion of the bodily's complex need to eat and be nourished, and also that our systems can digest both plant and animal matter. Also, what about eggs? Is fruit not the eggs of the plants? It seems to me that there is an overidentification with the concept of pain and suffering being solely of negative polarization.

your reach and depth in looking at this matter is not deep :

'the body serving the self by nourishing' is not necessarily something that is self serving.

if, the body is doing a process that another entity needs, this becomes not self serving, but, mutually beneficial symbiont act. say you are a monkey and you need to eat bananas. and the tree needs to spread its seeds and nitrogen. you eat bananas, live in the tree, spread its seeds and provide it nitrogen. the plant flourishes, spreads its seeds, and acquires nitrogen.

or, the monkeys can start killing and eating each other, basically doing nothing in the process, only learning what not to do to destroy the system.

it is a simple question of systems : systems can work well, and harmoniously, or systems can destroy themselves or run problematic.

this universe seems to be based on teaching entities to willingly live in harmony with each other. and in the process, the things that should not be done, are allowed.

Consider, service to self, service to others, one to command and one to serve, one to direct and one to be directed. The Confederation pushes the idea of service-to-others, the words of masters making willing slaves? Difficult to say.

the problem is, there isnt only 'one'. the 'one', as in 'single' or numeric one, is the perception of the 6d entities that are relaying us their philosophy. the 6d, indigo ray, not surprisingly is the ray that carries the meaning of unifiedness of existence. which can easily be mistaken and misperceived to be 'singular' or one.

however, 'one' does not mean 'single', and its opposite does not mean 'multiple. in reality, infinity is comprised of both of these things, it is not only 'one' but also many in nature. it contains both the singularity and the manyness.

no surprise, since entire existence is something created by separating two polarities, and naturally apparently an earlier form of these polarities ended up being 'one' and the 'many'.

in infinity, all of these need to be present with all their complements in order to be complete/incomplete. there needs to me manyness, beside oneness. there has to be finite, beside infinite. (in regard to space/time, time/space - actually these are also polarities of the same complement).

however lets put it in a low level way :

any given universe is created by separating something that absorbs, and something that emits. in other words, a 'void' and an 'is'.

the void and is are also infinite in themselves probably. and it will take the is to expand infinitely to reach the full span of the non, and fill it. non, needs to be filled, the 'is' needs to expand.

you, me, all the other existing entities in this universe are 'is'es. and we is'es, have an infinite non to explore and fill.

by harming of any other 'is', a 'is' generating unit, the filling of non gets delayed, since the total emission of is gets reduced due to concept of spiritual synergy (the effect of the sum of parts are greater than just their effects' sum).

instead, all is'es should be supporting and helping other is'es to generate more 'is', in order to fill the non, and bring this octave to completion.

and this, is inevitably what all of them will be doing, in order to complete this octave. they can tarry or linger, and learn what not to do in the process. but, the is and the non will eventually merge and encompass each other, for there is no other way for it to happen - they will merge just like how they were separated at the beginning of this existence.

and when that happens and this particular creation completes and merges back with the infinite sea of infinite intelligence, another is and non will separate somewhere, and another creation will begin.

the infinitely small ises and nons that create these universes will never reach infinite intelligence, for it is impossible for any of them to become infinity themselves, without enlarging/enriching the infinite intelligence they are a part of themselves - as they become more infinite, infinite intelligence also becomes more infinite, and approaches infinity. and this process will forever continue, since infinite intelligence can also never reach infinity state, as long as it itself exists. and at the state of infinity, none of what we talk here, hold true, so it is not relevant to us.

in short, one can choose to tarry and linger, or dash forward. however direction that will be followed will never change. it is towards the infinity that will never be reached.