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    Thread: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels


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    04-24-2011, 09:43 PM
    hogey Wrote:could Jesus have had a pre-incarnational contract with a powerful Orion entity to bring upon his death when the time had come?

    I personally think it is a long-shot to strongly assume that Jesus had an inexorable pre-incarnational arrangement to die on the cross. The following is an LOO extract from 75.14 -

    Quote:When the entity Jehoshuah decided to return to the location called Jerusalem for the holy days of its people it turned from work mixing love and wisdom and embraced martyrdom which is the work of love without wisdom.

    That for me indicates that Jesus was constantly refining his choices through out that incarnation with his freewill. He seemed to be working with love and wisdom. For instance, we read from Biblical accounts that he cleverly evaded the question of taxes with the witty "render to god what is god's and render to Caesar what is Caesar's" statement. I think there arose a situation wherein he either had to use his spiritual powers for great temporal gains (like political power) or die for standing for his principles. There is potentially a glimpse of that from session 17 -

    Quote:17.16 Questioner: When Jesus of Nazareth incarnated was there an attempt by the Orion group to discredit him in some way?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

    17.17 Questioner: Can you tell me what the Orion group did in order to try to cause his downfall?

    Ra: I am Ra. We may describe in general what occurred. The technique was that of building upon other negatively oriented information. This information had been given by the one whom your peoples called “Yahweh.” This information involved many strictures upon behavior and promised power of the third-density, service-to-self nature. These two types of distortions were impressed upon those already oriented to think these thought-forms.

    This eventually led to many challenges of the entity known as Jesus. It eventually led to one, sound vibration complex “Judas,” as you call this entity, who believed that it was doing the appropriate thing in bringing about or forcing upon the one you call Jesus the necessity for bringing in the third-density planetary power distortion of third-density rule over others.

    This entity, Judas, felt that, if pushed into a corner, the entity you call Jesus would then be able to see the wisdom of using the power of intelligent infinity in order to rule others. The one you call Judas was mistaken in this estimation of the reaction of the entity, Jesus, whose teach/learning was not oriented towards this distortion. This resulted in the destruction of the bodily complex of the one known as Jesus.

    I think Judas probably worked with a band of politically minded/connected religious orthodoxy folks to conspire into putting Jesus in a position of either using his spiritual powers for earthly power or die for refusing to do so. I need to note that Ra said they would only 'describe in general', which means may be they did not want us to know exactly what transpired. So I can only guesstimate with what is given.

    Thus, when Jesus entered Jerusalem, he was faced with two options, I guess. From the LOO 75.14 -

    Quote:There were two factions present to greet Jehoshuah, firstly, a small group of those which hoped for an earthly king. However, Jehoshuah rode upon an ass stating by its very demeanor that it was no earthly king and wished no fight with Roman or Sadducee.

    The greater number were those which had been instructed by rabbi and elder to make jest of this entity, for those of the hierarchy feared this entity who seemed to be one of them, giving respect to their laws and then, in their eyes, betraying those time-honored laws and taking the people with it.

    Jesus was a threat to the orthodox religious hierarchy as well, which of course supported the political structure. This trend is visible in today's world too. I guess Jesus was given an ultimatum in the sense that either he stops being a radical and joins the religious-political complex and be rewarded with earthly power; or be put to death for his principles through most gruesome torture. May be Judas thought that Jesus would surrender to the powerful religious-political hierarchy in fear of death and out of dread for the physical pain arising from vile torture before that.

    We know what Jesus chose.

    If I had been in the position of Jesus, I would have chosen the other option by rationalizing to myself that I would be able to serve people better through political power. Of course, that is a self-deceptive ploy in many ways; but I cannot emulate the example of Jesus in being put to death through horrendous torture on the cross for sacred spiritual values.

    All my subjective opinions and thoughts.
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    LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-20-2011, 01:53 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-20-2011, 06:00 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 09:01 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Ankh - 04-20-2011, 09:17 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 11:17 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-20-2011, 12:33 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 08:33 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-20-2011, 08:55 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 08:58 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-20-2011, 09:11 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 09:21 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-20-2011, 09:26 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 09:39 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-21-2011, 12:39 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-20-2011, 09:56 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-20-2011, 12:58 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Etude in B Minor - 04-20-2011, 11:22 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-20-2011, 11:28 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-20-2011, 11:42 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-21-2011, 12:17 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-21-2011, 01:19 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-22-2011, 02:06 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-22-2011, 03:24 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-22-2011, 06:30 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-22-2011, 04:10 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-22-2011, 12:46 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Richard - 04-22-2011, 04:32 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-23-2011, 03:51 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-23-2011, 11:49 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-23-2011, 01:01 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-23-2011, 08:48 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 04:01 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 04:05 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 04:22 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 04:31 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 04:41 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 04:44 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 05:00 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 05:30 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 05:35 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 06:00 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 07:41 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 08:31 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 09:18 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-24-2011, 09:29 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 09:37 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-24-2011, 09:46 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 09:58 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-24-2011, 10:14 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 10:32 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-24-2011, 10:37 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 10:43 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by zenmaster - 04-24-2011, 11:00 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 11:09 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-24-2011, 11:46 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 10:49 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 10:41 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 10:52 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 11:49 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-24-2011, 01:53 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by kycahi - 04-24-2011, 01:24 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 04:28 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-24-2011, 04:50 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-24-2011, 05:52 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Confused - 04-24-2011, 09:43 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by alanea - 04-24-2011, 09:08 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-25-2011, 01:31 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by kycahi - 04-25-2011, 03:33 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-24-2011, 09:45 PM
    3-D Monkey - by alanea - 04-24-2011, 10:38 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by 3DMonkey - 04-24-2011, 10:52 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by spero - 04-25-2011, 05:45 AM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by hogey11 - 04-25-2011, 02:03 PM
    RE: LoO Jesus & non-canonical gospels - by Spectrum - 04-25-2011, 04:48 PM
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