(04-27-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: if you want to believe killing plants is pain free, it is your prerogative.
Please don't twist my words. I never said killing plants was pain free.
(04-27-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If someone looks out at the world and sees killing or eating animals is wrong, then they see a world that is wrong. It does not need to be seen so.
Yes, I do see a world that is wrong. I see the needless suffering of billions of sentient 2D entities wrong. I see war as wrong. I see raping the environment as wrong. There are a lot of things wrong with this planet.
We can't fix everything.
But we have the power to fix some things. Not participating in acts of violence is one of them. Slaughtering animals is an act of violence.
Harvesting plants may also be considered violence by some people. Fine. Then don't eat plants either. Eat only fruit, if you feel that way. But to justify inflicting pain on animals because plants also feel pain, is illogical.
If it's true that plants and animals feel pain equally (which I don't believe, but let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that it is true), then that is an argument to eat fruit only, NOT an argument to continue killing both plants AND animals!
(04-27-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: So why isn't this earth going to be a 4D Negative planet if it is so 'full of slaughter'?
That is answered in the books. We know from Ra that our planet has been very behind, with a very small harvest, and much more violence than on other planets. Not enough to be harvested 4D negative, but enough to interfere with being harvested 4D positive.
(04-27-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: The plant has feelings just as much as an animal.
That is your opinion. My idea for the killing experiment, was to test that hypothesis, for anyone interested in doing so.
(04-27-2011, 12:56 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Another important question I have for you, Monica.
Do you equate my association between killing animal and plant with the idea that my feelings for animals are lessened to your feelings for vegetation, or that my feelings for vegetation are hightened to you feelings for animals?
Again, I'm not interested in analyzing you personally. It's not my place to do so, and I don't understand why you would even ask me to do that.
(04-27-2011, 01:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Everthing is acceptable under the Law of One. Killing serves the creator.
By that logic, one could justify wars, murder, rape, whatever, and never do anything to help make the world a better place. Why bother to work for peace? Why bother to take murderers and rapists off the street? Why bother to do our part to end suffering?
What is your point here? Are you saying that it makes no difference what we do at all? Maybe it doesn't matter to the Creator, but it DOES matter to US. Whether we are harvested STS or STO, DOES matter...it matters from our perspective and how we experience the next few million years.