05-10-2011, 02:18 PM
(05-10-2011, 06:29 AM)Confused Wrote:(05-10-2011, 04:12 AM)Meerie Wrote: I will have to check in the book. All I remember that they had progressed to a point spiritually that they were able to ascend and thus they did.
Dear Meerie, thank you for bringing Dolores to my attention. Because you referenced her, I checked her up on the internet and found the following video -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihH0L_bff...r_embedded
I found many principles in her talk, which matched so closely and/or overlapped with the LOO. I was truly flabbergasted.
some piece of truth happening to be in a bunch of information, does not make that information valid or from a reliable source. the same kind of situation was there in the information moses received, but the source was mixed.
the information we have in Ra material doesnt leave room for this :
harvest cannot happen without harvesters - 'an harvest time, there are harvesters', it is said.
for all negative entities that got harvested, 'harvested itself' term is used. for all positive entities that are harvested, talk of harvest and end of cycles are not only mentioned, but also presence of harvesters are also mentioned. moreover, the entities which are supplying precise vibrations for each ray for this harvest, are told to be coming from the next octave.
if we combine this with the information that 'at harvest time, there are harvesters', we see that who facilitates this harvest, are entities that come from the next octave. aside from that, there are only entities who aid the harvest by standing on sidelines and preventing entities from falling due to anything but the strength of light they are receiving. (for only 4d harvest - it depends on strength of light).
so then it means, harvesters are needed for harvesting positive entities. at least, for a planet which is moving to 3rd density for the first time.
moreover, and maybe more importantly and precisely, ra says approach of 4th density is like tickings of a clock, and, gives a precise time for harvest, in the form of 30 years from 1981. this ends up in 2011. a time period is not given, a duration is not given. it is said that, in effect 'harvest will happen at the year 2011'. this is also reinforced with the description of harvest at the end of 2nd cycle, as in 'entities appeared to the harvested and told them about 4th density'.
in addition, no other entities than the 2nd cycle harvestees, and the entities who later harvested themselves were mentioned to be harvested up to 1981. for all entities that are harvestable, the term 'harvestable' is used, none of them are told to be harvested.
this is an important piece of information. had anyone got harvested, this would have been expressed when asked. if it is not possible to share a piece of information, ra says 'this information must be withheld'. however there is no such information withheld either.
at http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#16
ra says 'a harvest began with entities finding the way to intelligent infinity' in second cycle. but, in the following q/a, they say there was no harvest, because the entities chose to stay.
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all combined, it seems that for 4d harvest, opening the gateway to intelligent infinity is needed, and for that, a certain amount of energy/frequency is needed. even in the case of negative harvests, harvests seem to tend to happen towards end of cycle, while the harvest is approaching. 'entities finding the gateway to intelligent infinity' (towards end of 2nd density) seems to mean that, becoming harvestable and getting harvested, are two separate things. 150 entities were harvestable at the end of 2nd density, yet, there was no harvest.
speaking precisely on topic - if there was an entire group of entities who got harvested in any cycle, ra would have mentioned this while talking about harvested entities.