05-15-2011, 11:32 AM
(05-15-2011, 06:31 AM)spero Wrote:(05-15-2011, 04:26 AM)unity100 Wrote:Quote:Still makes sense, as far as I can tell.
doesnt. not only leaving aside there is no pointers to any 'after death harvest' proposition anywhere in Ra material, but also there is the evidence to the contrary, like what i have mentioned above.
I think the below basically states harvest occurs outside of incarnation or after death.
Quote:48.6
...Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.
Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.
(05-15-2011, 04:26 AM)unity100 Wrote:(05-15-2011, 03:03 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: I think we all agree this happens in t/s- phenomena like 'steps of light' cannot happen in 3rd density space/time. The question becomes, what time/space environment is available to 3rd density entities?
there is no steps of light or anything necessary for 4d harvest. 4d harvest, is about enjoying a certain amount of light. this is 51% for positive. and, moreover, we are told that opening the gateway to intelligent infinity during incarnation, is ticket to next octave of experience.
this means, opening this gateway can happen both in incarnate form, and in disincarnate form. which, will probably happen with the exact disseminations of light the harvesters will emit.
Even negatively polarized entities such as Rasputin and Ghengis Khan who were able to be harvested earlier in a cycle due to their penetration of intelligent infinity, didn't ascend in a flash of glory mid-way through their incarnation...they died (something which i'm sure was well documented) and then were harvested.
Again, dual activated have been harvested already.
The question here is that if harvestable 3d's at end of the cycle could be given a choice like the 150 in south america. And honestly, it could be less than 150...
(05-15-2011, 03:28 AM)zenmaster Wrote: I have never seen the universe work in a way that didn't make sense. The whole 'kill them off' through radiant power of 4D thing, and so forth. It's a laugh.
No. It will just give 3d's a perfect tan so they can appreciate how good 4d could be...
Quote:One last, slightly humorous point is, consider little jack, who turns .. whatever, 6 months on 28 october 2011, with two full 3d parents, now little jack is dual activated so he's okay, but what happens if this were a sudden space/time thing..? Boom.. his parents just 'go away'?
There should be a dissolution of the family as we know it, since 4d is after all the start of social memory complex. This means, that people should take care of of children etc as a group, providing all care necessary.