05-18-2011, 01:23 AM
(05-17-2011, 10:58 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: And choices they are, when alternatives to animal cruelty are offered and dismissed or belittled in the interest of self-preservation. That is, as you say, 100% STS.
The role of the consumer is not self preservation, it is more like self gratification. That is how the system programs us. Self preservation does not make a person think they need meat to be healthy, society tells them that.
Quote:Can’t 3D awareness come naturally, without interaction with 3D entities?
Possible if there were enough love from another source. But how would this happen? We see it in interspecie captive animals, but not so much wild animals. We really are the caretakers of the planet, we heal it or rape it.
Quote:The way I always understood 2D incarnation was that the soul incarnated into the same animal consciousness every time, until the biological pool became unviable or the entity was harvested.
My understanding came from questions of the inner self, not any book. Tracking the incarnations of my pets I found that they end up as the exact same species. Only one pet had made the jump to another larger animal, as a result of the caring I had given it.
Quote:I recently discovered (just last night in fact…) this is not the case for all breeds of chickens, but most I’ve encountered (a possum is able to kill every chicken in a chicken coop without a peep from the chickens).
With a little research you will find that specific traits can be bred into an animal within only a few generations.
Quote:I can see how a goat’s incarnation is more invested than an aphids in a sense, but couldn’t it also be true that the goat that is killed might also be instantly reincarnating as another goat?
It does, unless of course you have given it enough love for it to become aware of itself as an individual being. There has to be something to bump it out of its endless cycle, and when the secret behind the jump from 2D to 3D is love, just how large do you suppose that secret may be? These texts you guys rely on are only pointers, allowing for more structured thought to take place, as a way to find these secrets.
Quote:And when this time arrives, maybe the lives of weeds and bugs will be in the forefront of peoples’ minds.
We move forward in stages. When we have reached certain understandings and subsequent choices we then work on the next stage of decisions. As a whole we haven't even moved beyond the habit of consuming death believing it will bring us life.
My wife is a lifelong vegetarian, turned raw vegan. Things that we try to learn how to do has always been natural for her. When I bring up something new I experienced she says she thought everyone was like that. So many things that she can see, she just assumed we were all like that. One of those things is the life in a plant, and how it reacts to her. There is no fear or suffering, unless it wilts and dies for nothing. She can tell there is sadness emanating at that point. I grew up a dense meat eater, so having my awareness grow in so many ways makes the world seem new all over again in my eyes. I am actually getting into things I either did not believe in or made fun of. There is a whole new world out there for me.
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