In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

The role of the consumer is not self preservation, it is more like self gratification. That is how the system programs us. Self preservation does not make a person think they need meat to be healthy, society tells them that.

Very true.

Can’t 3D awareness come naturally, without interaction with 3D entities?

Possible if there were enough love from another source. But how would this happen? We see it in interspecie captive animals, but not so much wild animals. We really are the caretakers of the planet, we heal it or rape it.

Agreed. Caretakers, yes. Unfortunately that line in the Bible about "take dominion over the Earth" has given plenty of people justification (in their minds) to rape the Earth and think of animals as 'things' rather than beings.

The way I always understood 2D incarnation was that the soul incarnated into the same animal consciousness every time, until the biological pool became unviable or the entity was harvested.

My understanding came from questions of the inner self, not any book. Tracking the incarnations of my pets I found that they end up as the exact same species. Only one pet had made the jump to another larger animal, as a result of the caring I had given it.

I've had cats come back as cats, and dogs come back as dogs. I'm pretty sure I had a dog come back as a cat once! Although I cannot say with certainty. But that cat sure did act like the dog, and even played with the other dogs in the same way that the departed dog used to!

However, our observation of our companion animals is based on a very short time period, so I don't think it can be used to form any conclusions. We simply don't have any way of knowing how many times that dog was a bee, slug or frog before incarnating as a dog!

Based on my understanding of Ra's words about our sojourn thru the densities, I feel very strongly that we have all been various plants and creatures at some point, but 2D life is more like a pool. So when an individual dandelion dies, its soul merges with all other dandelions, like pouring a cup of water back into the ocean.

At some point in higher 2D, usually in an animal body, that individual becomes self-aware, and its divine spark individuates from the pool. This is much more likely to happen with a higher 2D animal, than an ant or aphid.

I see no reason why goats can't incarnate as cats, and in fact I think of that as a given, just as humans might incarnate as a different ethnicity.

The idea that 'goats are always goats and dogs are always dogs' comes from the Biblical creation story, in which God supposedly created each species of animal, and animals always stay animals. (My Bible-believing friends are usually appalled whenever I suggest that a cat might be human some day...considering themselves 'above' such 'lower' creatures is just another form of elitism.)

So, we have the Biblical version, saying that animals live 1 life and have no soul. Then there is the Evolution version, that says consciousness arose from biology, and each species evolves on its own track.

What does the Law of One say? That souls evolve through the densities, incarnating into whichever physical vehicle that suits their soul's needs at that time.

These texts you guys rely on are only pointers, allowing for more structured thought to take place, as a way to find these secrets.

Good point! Even the Law of One is a pointer to the knowledge and wisdom that lies within, and is accessible via meditation.

We move forward in stages. When we have reached certain understandings and subsequent choices we then work on the next stage of decisions. As a whole we haven't even moved beyond the habit of consuming death believing it will bring us life.

Exactly! Such a fundamental concept!

My wife is a lifelong vegetarian, turned raw vegan. Things that we try to learn how to do has always been natural for her. When I bring up something new I experienced she says she thought everyone was like that. So many things that she can see, she just assumed we were all like that. One of those things is the life in a plant, and how it reacts to her. There is no fear or suffering, unless it wilts and dies for nothing. She can tell there is sadness emanating at that point. I grew up a dense meat eater, so having my awareness grow in so many ways makes the world seem new all over again in my eyes. I am actually getting into things I either did not believe in or made fun of. There is a whole new world out there for me.

Thank you for sharing this! Quite profound!