Elder Race

[unity100]

Unity, a quick reply.

I disagree. Firstly, you've turned this:

..requires a certain degree of self determination.

.. into this...

when you accept enslavement, you cannot have self determination

You're making deductions/generalisations and passing them as Ra's own words.

i think you have not read the quotes attentively :

there is no positive harvest possible in a negative majority harvest, because positive polarity requires a certain degree of self determination. since there is no positive polarity possible, it does mean that in negative majority harvests, that level of self determination is not possible.

and, what is being offered to the confederation, is not a situation at a negative majority harvest - they are being offered enslavement by an outfit that has entire range from 3d negative to 5d negative - the control approximates absolute levels.

Secondly, Ra may not have been talking of an Earth incarnation, the statement was in the context of the entire universe :¬) There could be conditions vastly different to ours that infringe far more on one's free will (i.e. constant torture), which make it vastly harder to polarise.

the question is of a self determination question. it doesnt matter how the enslavement happens. if you are not able to self determine to an acceptable extent, you cant polarize positively.

in the case of enslavement, you cant have that self determination - it wouldnt matter whether you accept what is thrown at you or not - it is not a choice.

Thirdly, your deduction implies that a person born into slavery/captivity cannot polarise positively. I would assume one born into such a circumstance, regardless of their captors or controllers, could still choose love. I would also assume that, given those STS conditions, managing to choose love would be an incredibly powerful means of polarisation.

thats highly unlikely. manifesting green ray requires yellow ray being open. if you are not able to afford enough level of yellow ray, which will require you being able to choose, you wont be able to 'choose love'. 'mentally', maybe, but it wont be a polarization in the sense that is needed. it is a situation thats energetical.

Just as Jesus 'made the grade' for forgiving his captor(s)/killer(s) upon his death, even after taking the life of another.

is it where your misconception about positive polarization under slavery comes from ?

jeshsuah did not 'make the grade' of 4d harvest. he was already 5d harvestable. and, he did not accept enslavement - he accepted being killed. this, is a lesson in wisdom. he was at the brink of 5d, after being able to polarize positively while having choice in 3d, and 4d like the other positive harvestees.

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this discussion is actually moot - if, positive polarization under enslavement was possible, there would be positive harvestees in negative majority harvests.

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I know, in the deepest part of my heart, that I have to help the world change. And I am not going to sit and wait for a glorious day of harvest where it all disappears; I am going to work to make it disappear myself.

Amen to that brother. One must take responsibility :¬)

how would you take responsibility 2 months pending to maldek's destruction ?