07-08-2011, 10:49 PM
Wow, this conversation is swerving all over the place.
What is the point again?
Is it the relevant effects experienced by the sub density inhabiter of a 2D vehicle at time of death/murder/slaughter?
Is it the karma acquired by the person killing the 2D vehicle?
Is it the karma acquired by the person eating what remains of a 2D vehicle, with the clarification of which 2D compounds sources demand which karmic obligations, e.g. banana, ribs?
I've been in a heated discussion in this thread before. The result is that a person who decides for themselves to eat "A" and not "B" will not concede their justification to kill "A".
Likewise, a person who decides for themselves to eat "B" will not concede their justification to kill "B".
It is my stance to try to show that the justifications are the SAME from both sides.
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Monica has said to me before that if this is my conclusion then it is not a reason to eat meat but rather a reason to not eat plants.
I disagree with you, Monica. I think if I look out into the world, and, from my perception, see people using the same arguments against one another, I conclude that both are right- that each one is valid for the simple fact that they both look like the same humanoid person to me. I conclude that I can choose with either one and still be exactly like both of them, and it is all the same.
Here is one to think about.
I don't kill the animal. I buy the 2D remains of the animal. The only thing still alive is the bacteria growing on it, right?
I don't cut the banana off the tree, but it's makeup suggests that something about it is still alive when I grab it off the shelf, right?
Eaten dead, or eaten alive? hmmmm.....
What is the point again?
Is it the relevant effects experienced by the sub density inhabiter of a 2D vehicle at time of death/murder/slaughter?
Is it the karma acquired by the person killing the 2D vehicle?
Is it the karma acquired by the person eating what remains of a 2D vehicle, with the clarification of which 2D compounds sources demand which karmic obligations, e.g. banana, ribs?
I've been in a heated discussion in this thread before. The result is that a person who decides for themselves to eat "A" and not "B" will not concede their justification to kill "A".
Likewise, a person who decides for themselves to eat "B" will not concede their justification to kill "B".
It is my stance to try to show that the justifications are the SAME from both sides.
...
Monica has said to me before that if this is my conclusion then it is not a reason to eat meat but rather a reason to not eat plants.
I disagree with you, Monica. I think if I look out into the world, and, from my perception, see people using the same arguments against one another, I conclude that both are right- that each one is valid for the simple fact that they both look like the same humanoid person to me. I conclude that I can choose with either one and still be exactly like both of them, and it is all the same.
Here is one to think about.
I don't kill the animal. I buy the 2D remains of the animal. The only thing still alive is the bacteria growing on it, right?
I don't cut the banana off the tree, but it's makeup suggests that something about it is still alive when I grab it off the shelf, right?
Eaten dead, or eaten alive? hmmmm.....
