(07-08-2011, 10:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: What is the point again?
Primarily, whether supporting the slaughter of animals is congruent with the STO path.
(07-08-2011, 10:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I've been in a heated discussion in this thread before. The result is that a person who decides for themselves to eat "A" and not "B" will not concede their justification to kill "A".
Likewise, a person who decides for themselves to eat "B" will not concede their justification to kill "B".
This isn't a debate. No one is trying to 'win' or 'be right.' We are all learning from one another. This is a very deep topic, and emotionally charged, because it involves something most people do every day without giving much thought. It's not important that anyone concede or justify anything. What's important is that people be willing to consider other points of view, and stretch their thinking.
(07-08-2011, 10:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I think if I look out into the world, and, from my perception, see people using the same arguments against one another, I conclude that both are right- that each one is valid for the simple fact that they both look like the same humanoid person to me. I conclude that I can choose with either one and still be exactly like both of them, and it is all the same.
By that logic, then you could look at a murderer/rapist and a healer/philanthropist and conclude that both are right and them emulate both of them? I am curious why you would base your decision on what to do yourself, on what others do. Why would "being the same" as them make it ok for you? So does it really not matter at all what we do?
That's ok. We've covered this ground before, so no need to answer.
(07-08-2011, 10:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't kill the animal. I buy the 2D remains of the animal.
If people didn't buy the dead animals, there would be no market for them and the abominable industry would stop and the animals wouldn't be tortured and killed. By buying the dead animals, one is supporting the industry and just as responsible as those who do the actual killing.
(07-08-2011, 10:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I don't cut the banana off the tree, but it's makeup suggests that something about it is still alive when I grab it off the shelf, right?
Eaten dead, or eaten alive? hmmmm.....
Fruits aren't entities.