In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

It seems to me tendency to eat animal products starts in 2d. then 3d (in earth's 3d) kinda follows through (did not have to but it did).

Now this refers to a rather VERY problematic Earth.

Many ideas here are based on 4D situations which I find very encouraging. No, a lion killing eating a zebra cannot coexist in 4d positive vibrations.

Agreed! What I'm wondering is: How can we expect the lion to not kill the zebra, when we are still killing the cows and chickens?

And, what kind of 3D entities will those cows and chickens be? These younger other-selves are forming their spirit complexes right now, and are being influenced by us. It seems to me that, by continuing to kill and eat them, we are setting them up to be killers too when they get to 3D. We are setting up a pattern of violence in their 3D reality.

Someone has to stop the pattern! It has to start with us! We are more evolved than they are. It makes no sense to justify our killing by saying, "Oh but our younger other-selves (animals) kill too, and we killed thousands of years ago (when we were incarnated as our own ancestors) so that makes it ok to do it now." It makes much more sense to realize that we are the elders here! We are the elder brethren of these fledgling mind-body-spirit complexes we know as cows and chickens. We are to them, as Ra is to us! If we want them to inherit a better 3D reality - one that isn't plagued with wars and unnecessary suffering as ours is - then we have be the example! And we have to do it now!