(07-07-2011, 12:43 PM)kycahi Wrote: First, the Old Testament God is the vengeful one and Jesus came along to set things right--turn the other cheek, love your neighbor etc. It's those hairy Christian churches calling the combined "Holy" Bible the "word of God" that causes so many leaders/followers to screw things up.
The two testaments are bound together because of all the references that JC, being a Jew, made to the old one. Unfortunately, followers think that anything in that combined publication is good enough to site and use as justification for bad behavior and, worse, confusing the new pacifistic covenant with the old.
Here is a partial connection to the uses of sacrifice.
Quote:While I haven't done enough in-depth study to know this EXACT spell/incantation...
I find it odd that it calls upon "divine power" when YHVH is pronounced as "Yuh-hoh-voh"?
YHVH is pronounced as Yod-He-Vau-He (Yod-Hay-Vaw-Hay)
It's basic ancient Hebrew.
And quite commonly known (the correct pronounciation, at least) in real magick circles since antiquity.
Pronouncing it as "Yuh-hoh-voh" is like trying to pronouce "ROFLMAO" as 'rawf-meow".
..instead of "rolling on floor laughing my A$$ off."
YeHoVa or "Yuh-Hoh-Vah" is associated with some lower astral beings who like to "pretend" to be "God" to neophyte Left-hand path practictioners.
(and expected to be seen as such when said neophytes gain enough experience)
I won't even get into the other astral beings 'names' being invoked with this spell...
I'd recommend working the spell withOUT the name invocation as the visualization in itself is likely doing most of the work...
I'll let those who care enough, do their own research on the types of entities "invoked" with this spell,
and they can decide for themselves if they want them in their lives.
Hebrew and Sanskrit are particular languages that create the actual THOUGHTFORMS when the words are intoned/pronounced properly (which is unfortunately why power-hungry misguided Jewish priests of old, insisted that the vowels be left out of their language)
YHVH is the actual THOUGHTFORM of the "source" of this solar system and very high frequencies that one would seek to "align" with when doing spellwork.
Intoning the words properly both creates the thoughtform/vibration and allows one to access to it's power.
JehoVa is a group of parasitic astral entities that posed as wannabe God-like "almighty" entities to the uninformed and barbaric tribes of Isra-el who believed all astral communication to be "God".
(Which might explain why large parts of the Old Testament has "their God" wanting Vengeance, Punishment, and Retribution)
Let me restate- the Visualization itself seems very useful and i intuit is the main component of the spell.
The names intoned LESSEN the effects of the visualization and are calling upon LOW integrity astral beings that are no more "spiritual" than the average person on the street.
Take it for what it's worth...negative or useful advice.
Now here we see that the same things went on with the Tibetan Buddhists, which a friend of mine has had serious issues as a result of. Through his practices he had summoned something, that when a cleansing was applied, directly attacked all the group, and is now only sending its astral underlings to harass us. Pretty serious stuff to get into a system of worship or practice without knowing the background. If things don't make sense, there is probably a good reason.
Quote:The Teachings of the Buddha are one thing, and Tibetan Buddhist practices are quite another.My buddy only left his practices after looking into the current status and whereabouts of his "ascended masters". Scary stuff
As different as the words of Jesus are distinct from the rituals of the cathechism.
Before I commit myself to any organized path, be it to a spiritual director, or mentor, or a lama, I should ask where does this person get their directives.
The main question about all organized religion is "what agenda is driving it?"
Intent is everything.
Just as some protestant sects are more focused on Satan than God, so equally Tibetan rituals have little resemblance to the simplicity of the Buddha's teachings.
Found this just now:
"Invocation of demons:
Since time immemorial ritual magic and politics have been one in Tibet. A large proportion of these magic practices are devoted to the annihilation of enemies, and especially to the neutralizing of political opponents. The help of demons was necessary for such ends. And they could be found everywhere — the Land of Snows all but overflowed with terror gods, fateful spirits, vampires, ghouls, vengeful goddesses, devils, messengers of death and similar entities, who, in the words of Matthias Hermanns, “completely overgrow the mild and goodly elements [of Buddhism] and hardly let them reveal their advantages” (Hermanns, 1965, p. 401).
For this reason, invocations of demons were not at all rare occurrences nor were they restricted to the spheres of personal and family life. They were in general among the most preferred functions of the lamas. Hence, “demonology” was a high science taught at the monastic universities, and ritual dealings with malevolent spirits were — as we shall see in a moment — an important function of the lamaist state. [1]
For the demons to appear they have to be offered the appropriate objects of their lust as a sacrifice, each class of devil having its own particular taste. René von Nebesky-Wojkowitz describes a number of culinary specialties from the Lamaist “demon recipe books”: cakes made of dark flour and blood; five different sorts of meat, including human flesh; the skull of the child of an incestuous relationship filled with blood and mustard seeds; the skin of a boy; bowls of blood and brain; a lamp filled with human fat with a wick made of human hair; and a dough like mixture of gall, brain, blood and human entrails (Nebesky-Wojkowitz, 1955, p. 261)."
