Rejoining the One without "ascending"

[Tenet Nosce]

ra had had mentioned that at the start of an octave, not every entity starts from 1d. the consciousness gets spread to different vibrations.

I don't think I recall that one. Do you know where it is in the material? So are you saying a new octave is fully populated throughout the entire spectrum upon creation?

can you even stay in a lower density while keeping vibrations of a higher density anyway. there would be numerous frictions.

Aren't those frictions referred to as catalyst?

dont think so. unless you count learning not to remain in lower densities with higher vibrations as a lesson.

What is the outcome of the frictions? How does the Law of Responsibility come into play? What is the potential lesson offered? Ideas?

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that kind of thing wouldnt take place if the entities were not incarnated in 3d bodies and in a (rather negative) 3d society. if you look into it in detail, it can be named as a catalyst that comes into being because the entities are not in their native environment - so, its a catalyst to teach that everything should be in their appropriate environment - including wanderers. it is possible that the entities participating may learn some things pertaining to their density throughout the hardship, but, the things they will be doing to learn these things wont be pertaining to 3d mechanics or catalyst - they will be out of place interactions that are happening in a density that shouldnt have them.

in short, both wanderers, and the negative attacker have no business in a 3d experience. all they need to learn and all the amenities they need are present in their own density and space/time continuum.

So, in other words, if the wanderers weren't here, the negative attackers wouldn't be able to get in? As I am describing here in 2006.03.28 - Q'uo on Online Gaming?