07-17-2011, 11:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2011, 11:53 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
(07-17-2011, 10:21 PM)Pickle Wrote: I have experience with the side effects of others using magic. What they tend to do is use symbols and sigils without first testing if it is even safe to do so. These symbols and sigils are most times connected to things in the astral realm that may just "need" a connection to the physical. The other part of this is that certain symbols activate dormant "info" inside us, possibly DNA related, that will create something that wasn't there beforehand. There are a few different ways a symbol can have meaning, my habits are to see what a symbol does to my strength before I make a decision.
Ahh, I see. Well maybe that is what is going on here.
Quote:I had gotten the message that it would be best to read the LOO first, in order to understand the bible.
Yeah that would put a whole different spin on things. I can definitely concur that many passages and stories from the Bible that were previously confusing to me make much more sense when I view it though a different lens.
Quote:From my understanding it is the return of a "type" rather than an individual. The texts have understanding hidden behind parables while the literal parable is what is promoted. As in a type of person, what I have mentioned as Mankind/Humankind, and the eventual evolution that is inevitable.
John 14:12 Wrote:Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
This is on of my favorite quotes from the Bible. Although, I would much rather just get right to the "meat" of the teaching and read straight from the Gospel of Thomas.
Quote:So you have direct experience of being taught a parable as literalism.
Yes. I later learned that the technical term for this is synecdoche. Not the telling of the parable, but rather the literal interpretation thereof.
Quote:Have you figured out what the Holy Grail is yet?
I know of a seeker who goes by Montalk that is hot on the trail of the Holy Grail.
He believes that is may actually exist as an example of demiurgic technology, or spiritual weaponry of sorts. An object that can be charged with life energy, or vril, and be used to essentially break the rules of physical creation. Or at least that is my take. Better to let him speak for himself on that one.
Of course, when taken in a nonliteral context the "cup that holds the blood of Christ" could very well be a reference to his physical descendants. Of course that is heresy of the worst kind in the view of the church. Luckily for us some scholars have been willing to step outside of the "box" and look to history for clues. And luckily for them, the church no longer has power to take a person's life for stepping outside of the fabricated dogma.
Quote:Revelations was not given by a man of god anyways. I may start up a thread with the obvious mistranslations that continue to be used through all subsequent translations. But, if you think about it, how hard would it be to create a belief system which promotes a future vision, therefore manifesting that vision through years of indoctrination and the hive minds hardline belief bringing it about?
I think this is an interesting topic, and in many ways I believe this was done through the Book of Daniel. The book of Daniel was written circa 300 BCE and recounted the events that took place between 600 BCE and 500 BCE during the Babylonian exile of the Hebrews.
Incidentally, this is the same time period when a number of new religions and systems of thought were springing up around China, India, and Greece. Can you imagine? The Temple has been destroyed, and the Hebrews are forced to leave the Promised Land. How traumatic for these people! Even more so after being told they were the "Chosen Ones" of God. I mean, if they were God's people, then why didn't God step in? So you can see how much potential there was for this type of distortion to manifest. What really cooks my noodle is to think that this is what Yahweh/Jehovah had planned all along.
So I think the Book of Daniel was an attempt to reframe Judaism by positing some future time when the "wrath of God" would be unleashed in vengeance and restore the Throne of David through the coming of the Messiah. Revelations picks up this apocalyptic theme and essentially Christianizes it.
Say, that reminds me have you ever seen Jesus Camp? I watched it a few months back on Netflix and it really gave me the heebie-jeebies.
Quote:Heck, it could even be that this "foretold end" is created to bring about a destruction, which will only be stopped by our caretakers anyway. Like a reality failsafe system that works in the same way overpopulation limiters kick in.
Maybe. I am somewhat skeptical of any caretakers stepping in to rescue humanity at the last second. I truly believe that all of the solutions that humanity needs to move forward are already staring us right in the face, if only we would pull our noses out of materialism and dogma long enough to look.