07-19-2011, 08:29 PM
I love how this thread has evolved ... I'm very new to this forum -- hi everyOne! It's wonderful to connect with other selves around the Ra Material.
My big realization today is that I don't want to avoid the bliss just because there's pain (or longing) contained within it. I read today in the 'Wanderer's Handbook' something to that effect. That when we can accept it ALL and not avoid the pain, we're on to true conscious experience. My prayer lately is that I don't want to miss IT ...that is .... all the beauty and majesty that's around me NOW. I found that one thing keeping me asleep to it all was the exquisite pain that can ride along with exquisite beauty. When I'm in the bliss of NOW, I tend to experience this longing to share the unsharable and that realization brings the pain of alone-ness, or separation, then I let that bring me down and out of it. I've just decided to embrace that pain and let that just be part of it -- not run from it -- and see what happens.
Some ways up this thread, there was talk about how if they (can't remember who - sorry!) were sitting on the porch with the Masters (Ra Collective) it would be soooo painful when they left. I have 'sat on the porch' with a True Avatar on this plane (Mata Amritanandamayi Devi or, Amma) many times and, yes, the heart breaks and tears flow when they depart ... then there comes a time when we realize they're never gone from us, really. We're kind of forced into that understanding by the pain of their leaving. I will go through that pain of 'separation' as many times as it takes for me to realize that there is no separation!
As far as whether we're in 3D or 4D now ..... hmmmm .... I like what Icaro said: "I like to imagine those that incarnate with dual-bodies as carrying a 4D field or charge around them" ... I tend to think (today, anyway) as we place more and more consciousness in our hearts and work in the world from that space, we build and grow that 4D field .... then .... we're constantly, to one degree or another, slipping between the two states and at some point our awareness will come to rest primarily in the 4D. I'm gonna try on that perception for a while and see how it feels! It has been my experience that rushing these things (if we can) creates a rebound effect and we end up taking one leap forward and five stumbles back! Slow and steady as she goes ....
Sorry this was so long, but it's my first post! So glad to meet up here and thanks for reading ... looking forward to hearing more from everyone.
Offered in love.
My big realization today is that I don't want to avoid the bliss just because there's pain (or longing) contained within it. I read today in the 'Wanderer's Handbook' something to that effect. That when we can accept it ALL and not avoid the pain, we're on to true conscious experience. My prayer lately is that I don't want to miss IT ...that is .... all the beauty and majesty that's around me NOW. I found that one thing keeping me asleep to it all was the exquisite pain that can ride along with exquisite beauty. When I'm in the bliss of NOW, I tend to experience this longing to share the unsharable and that realization brings the pain of alone-ness, or separation, then I let that bring me down and out of it. I've just decided to embrace that pain and let that just be part of it -- not run from it -- and see what happens.
Some ways up this thread, there was talk about how if they (can't remember who - sorry!) were sitting on the porch with the Masters (Ra Collective) it would be soooo painful when they left. I have 'sat on the porch' with a True Avatar on this plane (Mata Amritanandamayi Devi or, Amma) many times and, yes, the heart breaks and tears flow when they depart ... then there comes a time when we realize they're never gone from us, really. We're kind of forced into that understanding by the pain of their leaving. I will go through that pain of 'separation' as many times as it takes for me to realize that there is no separation!
As far as whether we're in 3D or 4D now ..... hmmmm .... I like what Icaro said: "I like to imagine those that incarnate with dual-bodies as carrying a 4D field or charge around them" ... I tend to think (today, anyway) as we place more and more consciousness in our hearts and work in the world from that space, we build and grow that 4D field .... then .... we're constantly, to one degree or another, slipping between the two states and at some point our awareness will come to rest primarily in the 4D. I'm gonna try on that perception for a while and see how it feels! It has been my experience that rushing these things (if we can) creates a rebound effect and we end up taking one leap forward and five stumbles back! Slow and steady as she goes ....
Sorry this was so long, but it's my first post! So glad to meet up here and thanks for reading ... looking forward to hearing more from everyone.
Offered in love.