Golden Words spoken to the 150

[native]

So the question may be to what extent would those reverting be willing to go along with new ideas. I'd say it depends on what they recognize as valuable. It could still be the case that although not present or centered in green, there may yet be a recognition of the value in the various ideologies that it may allow. Just look at the huge number Christians, for example. Those reverting to orange are not (necessarily) 'stupid' or destructive, so generally speaking, if the change offers a better life then the 'what's in it for me' crowd would probably be supportive.

I don't doubt the human ability to cooperate and work together, so I think value will be appreciated. My biggest concern is that people will judge as to who's deserving of help. For instance, many people still point at the poor as being worthless, without acknowledging the multidude of social problems that perpetuate the issue. Not to mention capitalism depends on inequality, yet people love to sneer at the lower class. People don't acknowledge their collective actions and effects.

I've never seen an evolution of the truth movement beyond the embryonic conspiracy theories. It's still mass-minded, buzzwords and vague notions
of little intrinsic value, but high value in the conspiracy and dramatic effect department. And it's still mostly projection at work and says more about those finger-pointers demanding truth and honesty than it does about who they believe are suppressing their 'rights'. It begs the question of what these people have been doing with all this time with what they were given.

Yeah, there needs to be organization for anything to happen. We love to complain but do nothing about it. Wilber's Integral Psychology book sounds interesting..never heard of him.

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Wonderful thread.

The one thing that overrides my thinking on the subject is that there is nothing 'new' happening. Different results have occurred in history as society regurgitates 'change'. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

It does seem that way. We continue to deny aspects of ourselves, so that catalyst continually comes back to us.

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Sorry, that last post was a little judgmental and blunt. The truth is, I am drawn to the concept of 4d, but for me, to dwell too much on it is escapism (for me). I would have to say the same for the notion of possibly being a wanderer. Isn't it our challenge to apply whatever we know to this particular reality (3d)? If not, why are we here? I suppose I will know one day whether all this about wanderers, 3d, 4d, etc. has any validity, but that is not what is at hand for me now.
PEACE

Nothing wrong with bluntness if it's true! I've really begun to grasp the opportunity of being here to work on catalyst and balance..how valuable this situation really is. It's a goldmine as Zen put it.