07-24-2011, 05:15 PM
(07-24-2011, 01:43 PM)Crown Wrote: Yes, even if a thing migt be portrayed as negative to an entity, it does not mean that the vibration of the act itself is not positive or at the least, balancing. Balance is positive in my opinion, even if it balances te positive polarity down a bit.
according to what we have been given in the material we are studying as of now, these acts fall under the category of negative.
lawless pillaging and looting and suppression turning into organized, orderly pillaging, looting and repression does not constitute positive.
leave aside it is just further organization of these acts to be more efficient (unfortunately as evidenced by the conquests of islamic hordes following mohammad's era), foremost it is an acknowledgement and acceptance of those acts - practicing of negative acts are made the basis of the society, just in an orderly fashion. so, basically discriminating against other beliefs or people, forcing them to convert, invading them, pillaging them, enslaving them have been codified.
it is as negative as negative goes. just orderly negative. and that is not a 'good thing', if one looks from positive respect.
Quote:I dont view the Quran as one defenite explanation and truth. And i dont care if you cant voice these opinions in any muslim country because tat does not mean anything. Today, the biggest and "most important" muslim country, Saudia, is lthe worst country ever, ethically.
actually it means a lot. the only places in which you can voice these opinions are countries in which islam is in a small minority. even in the places islam is in noticeable minority, there is pressure from islamic circles in any form they can, from political pressure in mildest cases to death threats (and often following up of those threats) against anyone expressing such opinion.
this being consistent throughout societies basically says that the nature of the material is negative, and it is providing a good grounds for effecting negative behaviors and inspiration into the entities subscribing to it.
Quote:So now ou are saying that Mohammad is a 5d negative wanderer?
he was probably 6th. seeing creation as 'a place to be put into order' is a negative 5d trait. when the entity is in 6d, this wouldnt just go away, just like how wisdom doesnt go away when positive 5d entities go into positive 6d.
Quote:I have to go now, but yes, i will continue this discussion by bringing examples of the positive teachings of the Quran.
please, it shouldnt have been too hard.
Quote:I would like to repeat that yes, the Quran is an attempt of balance. It is positive in my opinion. If i'd go visit a planet where people randomly kill each other whenever they felt like it, i would try and discipline them into killing each other only like once in a while, and try to make rules for them to not kill children or pregnant women. That is balancing and it is positive in my opinion.
that is a negative 5d approach. making killing, enslavement orderly.
the positive approach would be to refuse enslavement or killing of other entities. i dont even know why i am having to give examples from this, but, here :
- patton wasnt able to qualify for harvest just because he kept on battling. leave aside institutionalizing that killing like you are proposing, he was supposed to totally refuse to kill. he didnt. he reincarnated.
- jeshosuah as a positive entity didnt even resist his murderers
Quote:Who said that the loss of a physical body is negative? I would say that it is, only if the entity commiting such an act, is thinking (vibrating) in a way that accomodates the act itself.
loss of physical body is not negative, institutionalizing entities killing each other for their own profit, is negative.