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    07-25-2011, 12:08 PM

    I would like to start with what i believe to be a clarification:


    Quote:16:101 - 16:103
    "And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse - and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down - they say, "You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies]." But most of them do not know.


    Say, [O Muhammad], "The Pure Spirit has brought it down from your Lord in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to the Muslims."



    And We certainly know that they say, "It is only a human being who teaches the Prophet." The tongue of the one they refer to is foreign, and this Qur'an is [in] a clear Arabic language.

    "

    "This Quran is in a clear Arabic language" relates to the fact that "they" (the disbelievers) claim that the prophet is an inventor of lies and that he is taught by a human being only which speaks in a clear Arabic language. Not some "foreign tongue". This whole statment does not devalue the complexity of the way the Arabic language is used in the Quran. It is highly complex and contains many words that are unknown to the average person. An Arab person for an example, that did not study Arabic in a Muslim environment.




    The Quranists link you posted may also suggest that there are lost texts from the original Quran...



    When you look at the word "Islam" in Arabic, it could mean many things. In english it could be understood as obidience / submission / surrender which can be portrayed as negative somehow. But, in Arabic, these words are different. When you are in a state of Islam, you submit yourself to the one and the all, peacefully. Theoretically, you can be a "Muslim" without being a Muslim, if you take in account that Muslim comes from Islam and it means what it means. A person could achieve that state without being named a Muslim on paper or whatnot. Islam is also safety, security, peace, immunity and freedom from evil.




    I feel that i delievered my point which is basically a new and more open minded way of looking at holy books including the Quran. Just like Ra says that you should only take what resonates with you, also in the Quran i believe is the case. Even if it is "clearly stated" otherwise. It is not clearly stated. The Quran is full of mysteries.





    From Surat al Israa:

    It is clearly an attempt of balance. Something in the style of the ten commandments but different. One could say that this text is somewhat negative, but i would say that it is positive in its attempt to correct things. Atleast, at the time period this text has been brought to us. Read the following with a state of mind that would suite the Ra material for an example. But the difference is that this text has secrets and mysteries in it and thats why every person could understand whatever he wants, positively. Understanding whatever you want does not mean that you changed th emeaning of the texts, but it means that you decide to understand in a way that is also relevant. Since Arabic is such a rich language and each word has more than one meaning.


    Quote:And your Lord has decreed that you not worship except Him, and to parents, good treatment. Whether one or both of them reach old age [while] with you, say not to them [so much as], "uff," and do not repel them but speak to them a noble word.

    And lower to them the wing of humility out of mercy and say, "My Lord, have mercy upon them as they brought me up [when I was] small."

    Your Lord is most knowing of what is within yourselves. If you should be righteous [in intention] - then indeed He is ever, to the often returning [to Him], Forgiving.

    And give the relative his right, and [also] the poor and the traveler, and do not spend wastefully.

    Indeed, the wasteful are brothers of the devils, and ever has Satan been to his Lord ungrateful.

    And if you [must] turn away from the needy awaiting mercy from your Lord which you expect, then speak to them a gentle word.

    And do not make your hand [as] chained to your neck or extend it completely and [thereby] become blamed and insolvent.

    Indeed, your Lord extends provision for whom He wills and restricts [it]. Indeed He is ever, concerning His servants, Acquainted and Seeing.

    And do not kill your children for fear of poverty. We provide for them and for you. Indeed, their killing is ever a great sin.

    And do not approach unlawful sexual intercourse. Indeed, it is ever an immorality and is evil as a way.

    And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law].

    And do not approach the property of an orphan, except in the way that is best, until he reaches maturity. And fulfill [every] commitment. Indeed, the commitment is ever [that about which one will be] questioned.

    And give full measure when you measure, and weigh with an even balance. That is the best [way] and best in result.

    And do not pursue that of which you have no knowledge. Indeed, the hearing, the sight and the heart - about all those [one] will be questioned.


    I am going to discuss this with a friend and hopefuly come back with some more to say.



    Peace.

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