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    Tenet Nosce (Offline)

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    07-26-2011, 03:06 PM (This post was last modified: 07-26-2011, 03:55 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
    When I come across seemingly conflicting information, my natural instinct is that investigation into the discrepancy will yield a higher level of understanding. While this may not be fruitful in all cases, there certainly can be no further understanding acquired by labeling one source as "right" and the other as "wrong" and leaving it as that.

    What I think this idea is getting at is that having a physical body puts one in a default STS mode. This is not to say that it is impossible to genuinely serve others within 3D, only that at the most fundamental level of being physical in 3D, there is an STS element that cannot be avoided or circumvented.

    The most notorious example being that physical beings must eat food, thus cutting short the life of another physical being in order to continue its own. As the human body cannot survive on carrion or rotted plant material, we are forced into the somewhat uncomfortable position of killing another living creature (even if it is algae) in order to survive.

    The idea put forth which I think is very intriguing is that 4D, though having an element of physicality, does not require one to eat food in the way that we normally think about it. If one is desirous of food, they may simply manifest it out of the "ethers".

    This gets back to the potential folly I pointed out in attempting to impose 4D values on a 3D society. One thing I really like about the C's is that, when pressed for questions about 4D, they frequently offer "wait and see" as a reply.

    So getting back to the food issue, perhaps upon our arrival in 4D we will find that this deep inner conflict over eating our animal and plant friends becomes a moot point. Perhaps we will find that this, and other issues that humans tend to get all worked up in a tizzy about, simply resolve themselves effortlessly, and we will find that much of our conflict and chagrin was for naught.

    Again, I see a huge pitfall for the "newly awakened" to get hoodwinked by self-styled gurus, masters, avatars and saviors, who are all too eager to impose all manner of physical practices that are supposedly intended to make one "more spiritual". Since, quite clearly, the gurus do not agree, one can easily become lost for years, decades, or even lifetimes, trying to determine which is the "One True Way" to eat, sleep, meditate, exercise, etc. for "spiritual growth".

    Ironically, this persistent idea of the "One True Way" is the #1 obstacle to true spiritual growth and understanding.

    Teilhard de Chardin Wrote:We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience.

    The human experience contains certain elements that are unavoidably STS. Eating, sex, marriage, ownership, money, the family unit (taking care of "one's own") are all examples of things that can never really be fully STO, given the parameters of the human experience.

    Interestingly, the only ones who seem to be deeply conflicted about this are those "Wanderers" who somewhere deep down know, that all of this is neither necessary, nor desirable. Yet we find ourselves here in 3D, and must play by the rules.

    As is being discussed in 6th-Density Negatively Polarized Wanderers?, a fairly substantial argument can be made that, throughout history, every attempt to impose higher density values upon a third density culture has backfired bigtime.




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    More Positive but Less Harvestable - by 3DMonkey - 06-23-2011, 06:15 PM
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    RE: More Positive but Less Harvestable - by Aaron - 06-26-2011, 09:26 PM
    RE: More Positive but Less Harvestable - by Tenet Nosce - 06-28-2011, 11:44 AM
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