Hello fellow students of the Law of One. Please forgive the length of this post. It is, by design, filled with relevant quotes and source material for further discussion. Please also read my comment following each quote as running commentary that represents my best thoughts on each. In this exercise I am teach/learning in order to aid my learn/teaching so please challenge any and all of my proposals, assertions, or speculations.
What is a Logos?
Perhaps one of the most confusing aspects of this discussion, is Ra's apparent tendency to "move around" the definition of "Logos", "sub-Logos", "co-Creator", etc., during his discussions. Although this may be confusing, I think it was not intentional. Recall that from Ra's perspective, he sees not just the interconnectedness but also the One-ness of us all. He truly sees each of us and the universe on the whole as a single entity with multiple hierarchical "faces". Consider:
So we have a Logos that is the creator of our milky Way Galaxy. That Logos has then subdivided hierarchically to create a number of sub-Logoi such as our Sun. Each such sub-Logos is empowered to freely act within the limits of creation and experience that are established by the Logos:
Here we see that our solar system has a set of rules that were established by our Sun, acting as Logos, that are unique to our solar system, but are within the framework established by our Galaxy. Ra clearly states that the planets are conscious. As the quotes in my earlier post indicate, this consciousness dwells with the Logos and is timeless until it is individuated.
So planets remain in a timeless state at one with their Logos sun until they achieve the ability to realize space/time, which is the prerequisite for entering 2D. Similarly, and earlier, the solar system itself is timeless until it (the Logos) has become individuated from its hierarchically higher co-Creator Logos. The same is true further and further up the hierarchy.
This seems to create a paradox: How can non-conscious entities, like planets have a space/time presence if they have not yet realized space/time? Let's set this question aside for now, and explore a little further.
Again, Ra is stating that a sub-Logos has free reign within the bounds established by its hierarchically superior Logos.
Earth as Logos
Now we begin to see the rather unique relationship between 3D Creatures and their host planets. First though, consider that Ra carefully chose the term "Logos" in describing a planet that is harmonically working with mind/body (i.e., 2D at least) complexes within its electromagnetic field. This says a lot, and it is interesting to note that aside from this, Ra generally overlooks the role that Earth plays in the creation process.
For Ra to say that a planet is a "Logos" means to me that Earth is acting within its free will to structure the environment within which consciousness is experienced here. Thus, those actions of evolution and creation of life forms would seem to be decisions made by the Earth as Logos, within the framework established by the Sun as Logos.
This also provides me a possible answer to a question that has troubled me ever since I first read the Law of One: Why was the quarantine really necessary? Ra states that the quarantine was employed because the genetic changes made to allow the migration of Martian 3D entities onto Earth, were viewed as to have infringed on their free will. It makes much more sense to me that it was actually Earth's free will to evolve its creatures that was infringed, because those of Yahweh were acting contrary to the will of Earth in making the changes and possibly in bringing alien entities here to begin with.
But the relationship between us and Earth is more complicated still, for even though we are sub-Logos to our planet we also directly influence her with our distortions.
This quote helps us resolve the earlier paradox. The planets, such as Mercury, which Ra does not mention have a space/time existence because they reside as part of the Sun's (Logos) consciousness. At such time as they develop individuated consciousness, they will begin to evolve within their own space/time that is separate from, but consistent with, that of their Logos.
Here, Ra adds another facet to our relationship with mother Earth and also to our Sun, and so forth back up the hierarchy. We are directly co-creators of our environment of our planet/solar system/ galaxy in which we exist. So those that will remain with Earth once it emerges into 4D, will physically be co-creators of the planetary memory that results on 4D Earth.
Sorry again for the length of the post. All comments are welcomed,
3D Sunset
What is a Logos?
Perhaps one of the most confusing aspects of this discussion, is Ra's apparent tendency to "move around" the definition of "Logos", "sub-Logos", "co-Creator", etc., during his discussions. Although this may be confusing, I think it was not intentional. Recall that from Ra's perspective, he sees not just the interconnectedness but also the One-ness of us all. He truly sees each of us and the universe on the whole as a single entity with multiple hierarchical "faces". Consider:
Ra, Book II, Session 28 Wrote:Questioner: Let’s take as an example the planet that we are on now and tell me how much of the creation was created by the same Logos that created this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This planetary Logos is a strong Logos creating approximately 250 billion of your star systems for Its creation. The, shall we say, laws or physical ways of this creation will remain, therefore, constant.
Questioner: Then what you are saying is that the lenticular star system which we call a galaxy that we find ourselves in with approximately 250 billion other suns like our own was created by a single Logos. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Since there are many individualized portions of consciousness in this lenticular galaxy, did this Logos then subdivide into more individualization of consciousness to create these consciousnesses?
Ra: I am Ra. You are perceptive. This is also correct although an apparent paradox.
Questioner: Could you tell me what you mean by an apparent paradox?
Ra: I am Ra. It would seem that if one Logos creates the intelligent energy ways for a large system there would not be the necessity or possibility of the further sub-Logos differentiation. However, within limits, this is precisely the case, and it is perceptive that this has been seen.
So we have a Logos that is the creator of our milky Way Galaxy. That Logos has then subdivided hierarchically to create a number of sub-Logoi such as our Sun. Each such sub-Logos is empowered to freely act within the limits of creation and experience that are established by the Logos:
Ra, Book I, Session 19 Wrote:This Logos has complete free will in determining the paths of intelligent energy which promote the lessons of each of the densities given the conditions of the planetary spheres and the sun bodies.
Ra, Book I, Session 13 Wrote:Questioner: I am wondering if the planetary system that we are in now was all created at once or if our sun was created first and the planets later?
Ra: I am Ra. The process is from the larger, in your illusion, to the smaller. Thus the co-Creator, individualizing the galaxy, created energy patterns which then focused in multitudinous focuses of further conscious awareness of intelligent infinity. Thus, the solar system of which you experience inhabitation is of its own patterns, rhythms, and so-called natural laws which are unique to itself. However, the progression is from the galaxy spiraling energy to the solar spiraling energy, to the planetary spiraling energy, to the experiential circumstances of spiraling energy which begin the first density of awareness of consciousness of planetary entities.
Here we see that our solar system has a set of rules that were established by our Sun, acting as Logos, that are unique to our solar system, but are within the framework established by our Galaxy. Ra clearly states that the planets are conscious. As the quotes in my earlier post indicate, this consciousness dwells with the Logos and is timeless until it is individuated.
Ra, Book II, Session 28 Wrote:Questioner: When does the individualization or the individualized portion of consciousness come into play? At what point does individualized consciousness take over working on the basic light?
Ra: I am Ra. You remain carefully in the area of creation itself. In this process we must further confuse you by stating that the process by which free will acts upon potential intelligent infinity to become focused intelligent energy takes place without the space/time of which you are so aware as it is your continuum experience.
The experience or existence of space/time comes into being after the individuation process of Logos or Love has been completed and the physical universe, as you would call it, has coalesced or begun to draw inward while moving outward to the extent that that which you call your sun bodies have in their turn created timeless chaos coalescing into what you call planets, these vortices of intelligent energy spending a large amount of what you would call first density in a timeless state, the space/time realization being one of the learn/teachings of this density of being-ness.
So planets remain in a timeless state at one with their Logos sun until they achieve the ability to realize space/time, which is the prerequisite for entering 2D. Similarly, and earlier, the solar system itself is timeless until it (the Logos) has become individuated from its hierarchically higher co-Creator Logos. The same is true further and further up the hierarchy.
This seems to create a paradox: How can non-conscious entities, like planets have a space/time presence if they have not yet realized space/time? Let's set this question aside for now, and explore a little further.
Ra, Book II, Session 28 Wrote:Questioner: I am assuming that the process of creation, after the original creation of the major galaxy, is continued by the further individualization of the consciousness of the Logos so that there are many, many portions of the individualized consciousness creating further items for experience all over the galaxy. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, for within the, shall we say, guidelines or ways of the Logos, the sub-Logos may find various means of differentiating experiences without removing or adding to these ways.
Again, Ra is stating that a sub-Logos has free reign within the bounds established by its hierarchically superior Logos.
Earth as Logos
Ra, Book II, Session 29 Wrote:Questioner: What I’m saying is that there are roughly 250 billion stars somewhat like ours in this major galaxy. Are they all part of the same sub- Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. They are all part of the same Logos. Your solar system, as you would call it, is a manifestation somewhat and slightly different due to the presence of a sub-Logos.
Questioner: Let me be sure I’m right then. Our sun is a sub-Logos of the Logos of the major galaxy?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Are there any sub-sub-Logoi that are found in our planetary
system that are “sub” to our sun?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Would you give me an example of what I will call a sub-sub-Logos?
Ra: I am Ra. One example is your mind/body/spirit complex.
Questioner: Then the planet which we walk upon here would be some form of sub-sub-Logos. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. A planetary entity is so named only as Logos if It is working in harmonic fashion with entities or mind/body complexes upon Its surface or within Its electromagnetic field.
Questioner: Do the sub-Logoi such as our sun have a metaphysical polarity positive or negative as we have been using the term?
Ra: I am Ra. As you use the term, this is not so. Entities through the level of planetary have the strength of intelligent infinity through the use of free will, going through the actions of beingness. The polarity is not thusly as you understand polarity. It is only when the planetary sphere begins harmonically interacting with mind/body complexes, and more especially mind/body/spirit complexes, that planetary spheres take on distortions due to the thought complexes of entities interacting with the planetary entity. The creation of the one infinite Creator does not have the polarity you speak of.
Now we begin to see the rather unique relationship between 3D Creatures and their host planets. First though, consider that Ra carefully chose the term "Logos" in describing a planet that is harmonically working with mind/body (i.e., 2D at least) complexes within its electromagnetic field. This says a lot, and it is interesting to note that aside from this, Ra generally overlooks the role that Earth plays in the creation process.
For Ra to say that a planet is a "Logos" means to me that Earth is acting within its free will to structure the environment within which consciousness is experienced here. Thus, those actions of evolution and creation of life forms would seem to be decisions made by the Earth as Logos, within the framework established by the Sun as Logos.
This also provides me a possible answer to a question that has troubled me ever since I first read the Law of One: Why was the quarantine really necessary? Ra states that the quarantine was employed because the genetic changes made to allow the migration of Martian 3D entities onto Earth, were viewed as to have infringed on their free will. It makes much more sense to me that it was actually Earth's free will to evolve its creatures that was infringed, because those of Yahweh were acting contrary to the will of Earth in making the changes and possibly in bringing alien entities here to begin with.
But the relationship between us and Earth is more complicated still, for even though we are sub-Logos to our planet we also directly influence her with our distortions.
Ra, Book II, Session 30 Wrote:Questioner: Thank you. Can you give me a brief history of the metaphysical principles of the development of each of our planets that surround our sun, their function with respect to the evolution of beings?
Ra: I am Ra. We shall give you a metaphysical description only of those planets upon which individual mind/body/spirit complexes have been, are, or shall be experienced. You may understand the other spheres to be a part of the Logos.
This quote helps us resolve the earlier paradox. The planets, such as Mercury, which Ra does not mention have a space/time existence because they reside as part of the Sun's (Logos) consciousness. At such time as they develop individuated consciousness, they will begin to evolve within their own space/time that is separate from, but consistent with, that of their Logos.
The Law of One, Book III, Session 65 Wrote:Questioner: Then we deal with an entity that has not yet formed a social memory but is yet an entity just as one of us can be called a single entity.
Can we continue this observation of the conglomerate entity through the galactic entity, or shall I say, planetary system type of entity? Let me try to phrase it this way. Could I look at a single sun in its planetary system as an entity and then look at a major galaxy with its billions of stars as an entity?
Can I continue this extrapolation in this way?
Ra: I am Ra. You can but not within the framework of third-density space/time.
Let us attempt to speak upon this interesting subject. In your space/time you and your peoples are the parents of that which is in the womb. The Earth, as you call it, is ready to be born and the delivery is not going smoothly. When this entity has become born it will be instinct with the social memory complex of its parents which have become fourth-density positive. In this density there is a broader view.
You may begin to see your relationship to the Logos or sun with which you are most intimately associated. This is not the relationship of parent to child but of Creator, that is Logos, to Creator that is the mind/body/spirit complex, as Logos. When this realization occurs you may then widen the field of “eyeshot,” if you will, infinitely recognizing parts of the Logos throughout the one infinite creation and feeling, with the roots of Mind informing the intuition, the parents aiding their planets in evolution in reaches vast and unknown in the creation, for this process occurs many, many times in the evolution of the creation as an whole.
Here, Ra adds another facet to our relationship with mother Earth and also to our Sun, and so forth back up the hierarchy. We are directly co-creators of our environment of our planet/solar system/ galaxy in which we exist. So those that will remain with Earth once it emerges into 4D, will physically be co-creators of the planetary memory that results on 4D Earth.
Sorry again for the length of the post. All comments are welcomed,
3D Sunset