In a film I have mentioned in another thread, Knowing (end of world scenario with Nicolas Cage as the main character), the idea or 'Randomness versus Determinism' is discussed. I find myself of late interested in that process as possibly described by Ra, seeing it in simple terms as 'Randomness versus Self-sought catalyst'.
What I mean is, when events occur in our life from which we can learn, the general opinion amongst Bring4th members (as far as I can see so far) appears to be that our core self invited it. This is a very hard line view, if it is held at all, allowing no room for random events which may be used for learning, or discarded in a 'walk on by' sense as not of much importance.
In reading through the Ra materials I find a lot of passages where they refer to random energies, but so far cannot find anything regarding whether they feel that involvement with others can just as easily be random rather than sought by self in other-self.
In myself when experiencing oneness, this is of no consequence and such thoughts do not arise (as most human-level thoughts do not). In my 99% waking human state though, I feel and logically reason that sought catalyst and random events are equally available.
Do you have any thoughts on this? Do you recall any passages in the Ra materials which do refer to it specifically? (Links will appreciated if you have any).
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I did find more when I got my search on another site better defined, such as this (which happens to be regarding planetary catastrophe, though not particularly relevant to my thoughts);
"I am Ra. The question must be answered in two parts. Firstly, the planetary catastrophes, as you may call them, are a symptom of the difficult harvest rather than a consciously programmed catalyst for harvest. Thus we do not concern ourselves with it, for it is random in respect to conscious catalyst such as we may make available.
The second portion is this: the results of the random catalyst of what you call the earth changes are also random. Thus we may see probability/possibility vortices going towards positive and negative. However, it will be as it will be. The true opportunities for conscious catalyst are not a function of the earth changes but of the result of the seniority system of incarnations which at the time of the harvest has placed in incarnation those whose chances of using life experiences to become harvestable are the best."
What I mean is, when events occur in our life from which we can learn, the general opinion amongst Bring4th members (as far as I can see so far) appears to be that our core self invited it. This is a very hard line view, if it is held at all, allowing no room for random events which may be used for learning, or discarded in a 'walk on by' sense as not of much importance.
In reading through the Ra materials I find a lot of passages where they refer to random energies, but so far cannot find anything regarding whether they feel that involvement with others can just as easily be random rather than sought by self in other-self.
In myself when experiencing oneness, this is of no consequence and such thoughts do not arise (as most human-level thoughts do not). In my 99% waking human state though, I feel and logically reason that sought catalyst and random events are equally available.
Do you have any thoughts on this? Do you recall any passages in the Ra materials which do refer to it specifically? (Links will appreciated if you have any).
Edit...
I did find more when I got my search on another site better defined, such as this (which happens to be regarding planetary catastrophe, though not particularly relevant to my thoughts);
"I am Ra. The question must be answered in two parts. Firstly, the planetary catastrophes, as you may call them, are a symptom of the difficult harvest rather than a consciously programmed catalyst for harvest. Thus we do not concern ourselves with it, for it is random in respect to conscious catalyst such as we may make available.
The second portion is this: the results of the random catalyst of what you call the earth changes are also random. Thus we may see probability/possibility vortices going towards positive and negative. However, it will be as it will be. The true opportunities for conscious catalyst are not a function of the earth changes but of the result of the seniority system of incarnations which at the time of the harvest has placed in incarnation those whose chances of using life experiences to become harvestable are the best."
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