08-27-2009, 02:49 AM
(08-26-2009, 04:56 PM)3D Sunset Wrote:(08-26-2009, 04:22 PM)greywolf Wrote: Well with this argument any human action on the planet is also a violation of this free will.
Not at all, my friend! The whole purpose of life on a planet is interaction. Rather, what I said was the imposition or tinkering of a design by forces outside of the planet (i.e., Yahweh) is a violation.
Ok, that's where we differ as I see no essential essential difference between forces outside or inside a planet. To me it seems somewhat like saying a foreigner coming to Egypt and defacing a pyramid is violating the free will of its builders. And distorting the design would appear at least to some extent the purpose of existence of the Orion forces (since they if nothing else seek to suppress free will) yet their actions are not compensated to the logos like you are suggesting did happen.
(08-26-2009, 04:56 PM)3D Sunset Wrote:(08-26-2009, 01:54 PM)greywolf Wrote: That the logos does nothing subsequent to creating a design.I would content rather that the Logos remains involved in evolving the design after it has created it.
This would be to me too significant infringement of free will. I see the design as possibly working as an archetype or ideal in the root mind. Evolution is driven primarily by idealistic sexual selection and not by mutation as such.
(08-26-2009, 04:56 PM)3D Sunset Wrote:(08-26-2009, 01:54 PM)greywolf Wrote: And if there is no prior design for third density there was no violation of it.As long as you believe that Yahweh is not the name for the Earth Logos, I do not see how you can argue that this provides the opportunity for infringement of Earth's free will to evolve its own base forms for use by 3D life forms.
I suppose the basic difference here is maybe that you believe in continued interventionist evolution, while I believe in the logos just setting the blueprint and leaving it at that. With your perspective, since humanoids have existed only for a relatively short time I suppose one would have to conclude most of the time the logos was just wasting time or playing games (since active genetic engineering can accomplish results in few generations as animal breeders could attest, the diversity of human forms also indicates this). Also he did not prevent near extinction of his prize creation in Lemuria (even scientists agree there was a massive reduction in human genetic diversity in the timeframe given by Ra). Ra does mention random events occuring in first density.