Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

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I definitely wouldn't view it that way. I mean, 5 years is awfully strict, considering Ra constantly pointed out their problems with numbers, and used the terms "approximately" or "this is an approximation" and "we speak in generalities" (which they said themselves is dangerous). It is your right to not take the information seriously if the harvest doesn't happen the way you feel it was supposed to, but that's really the essence of what I'm speaking about. Expectations can be frivolous and dangerous.

'intelligent infinity offers a type of clock' is not an approximate statement.

Extremes of all sorts are coming to the surface, from natural disasters to global economic health. Plutocracy is destroying the first-world economies, and the corruption in business and politics is now blatantly obvious. The world is blowing up; you cannot deny this. The question is going to be: do we recover from this, and are we better off because of it? In this way, I am hopeful that we see the dawn of a new age and the 'death' of our confused minds.

these do not carry any direct synchronicity to harvest. depending on the state and format of the society present on a planet, any kind of free will reaction to any energy change may come to being. some societies could have reacted to early stages of harvest radically, and some to later stages, and some to in between. it all depends where the problems of the society lies, energetically.

energy i say, because, as we can understand from what is explained in the material about contacting intelligent infinity, activating all energy centers up to indigo is necessary for harvest. then this means, during harvest, these energies will also be activated planet wide, for entities to be able to rise up in energy centers, regardless of individual prowess.

so, then, whether it be an individual, or a society, if the society has any issues in any given chakra in the order from 1 to 6, these will come to surface during the phase those energies start flowing.

what is more in direct synchronicity with harvest would be however the below :

For myself, I would understand where zen is coming from if the world was calm and moderate; it's not.

the state of the planet, and the situation regarding its energies are directly relevant to harvest, apparently. following the chart given in calleman's site regarding last phase of mayan calendar and the state of solar flares, storms, whatever energies coming to planet with japanese govt's real time magnetosphere monitoring site, i have seen that the synchronicity in between day/night periods in mayan calendar and sun activity is almost perfect. moreover, the peaks in activity seems to induce geological activity in the form of increased number and magnitude of quakes. (thanks to monitoring with rsoe edis site).

falling back to check with spiritual principles that may be behind this, one can easily find verifications :

it is known that the local logos is the provider of energy for this and other planets' activity. every night and day, since harvest is just providing energies up to at least 6th, indigo ray in order to provide entities to contact intelligent infinity, it is natural for there to be involvement from the sun. and for a planetwide contact of intelligent infinity, planetwide presence of energies need to be present for the opportunity of contact to be possible.

so, we have a picture that portrays us an inevitable, clock-wise progress towards availability of a certain vibration, regardless of the actions and musings of the entities that live on a planet. the only thing that can hamper the process, could be the planet getting destroyed. even if there were no humans on the face of the planet, but planet was there, these energies would still be present at the striking of the hour. remember 'regardless of the circumstances upon striking of the hour'.

in the event of destruction of the world, however, there probably would be no harvest as per the example of maldek. however, if a planet is not destroyed, but entirely depopulated, i think harvest still could take place at least in time/space.

Ra was very specific about many things, unfortunately, for some reason, Don never pushed the questions on Harvest enough to get a clear answer. Don got close to asking a good question, asking if Harvest will be spread out or in 2011, but only got this:

This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest

Approximation, difficulty with your time/space...throw in some other ideas through the material, like an extended transition period, the concept of 4D bodies coming from reproductive evolution, dual bodied individuals, and we just don't have a clear picture of how it is supposed to happen.

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there is nothing left to vagueness in the above information about harvest.

ra may have difficulties about planet's time/space. however, they gave a year for happening of the harvest, as opposed to giving a time period. and this, was in response to a question that specifically asked about whether it would be spread out.

the above basically tells us, the harvest will not be spread out. it will happen in a given time/space nexus, like 2011, even if it was not 2011. else, there would be a period given, like x years, or start and end years. instead, there is a year given for harvest.

evolution of 4d bodies from 3/4d bodies are not relevant to harvest. harvest can take place, and 4d bodies may evolve throughout time as they please.

at this point 'gates to intelligent infinity opens regardless of the circumstances upon striking of the hour' is necessary to remember.

So many people dismiss Q'uo now because the channeling method is different from the Ra material. I guess that's up to the discernment of the individual. I trust Q'uo as long as Carla and Jim are channeling them, and as long as they don't touch on Carla's obviously ingrained beliefs (resurrections of Jesus, etc.)

quo material leaning towards the channelers' beliefs in subjects like resurrections of jesus etc, would mean that it would also lean towards he biases of the channelers in other subjects they feel strongly about.