Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

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Now it's certainly possible for "ceasing" to be a discontinuity, but that's not universal. Something can gradually phase out...when it starts phasing out, it "begins to cease," and when it's done phasing out, it has ceased. You can apply this example to countless things. The 3D vibes "began to cease" years ago, yet they haven't completely ceased yet. It could mean either, yet when the phrase "begins to cease" is used, I'd bet that it means that it only begins to cease, and doesn't completely cease until later.

That is all well and good, but EVEN IF it were true, all it does is put off the event until later, when the "3D vibes" completely cease. There is still a final moment, now it is just punted into the future. When the final moment arrived, we would be in the exact same position we find ourselves now with respect to a final parting of ways.

And so, there has to be some mechanism by with this separation is achieved. Some say the only possible mechanism is normal physical death. Well, OK, that's fine I guess. I'm not sure why it is so upsetting to consider other possibilities, but IF IN FACT it is true, then the only viable conclusion is that, at the end of the supposed "phase" or winding down, everybody who is left must perish in a global cataclysm.

Population Earth: 7 billion... 6 billion... 2 billion... 1 billion... 100 million... 1 million... 1 hundred thousand... 1 thousand... 1 hundred, ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one........ ZERO.

The gradualist argument doesn't circumvent the fact that 3D earth will cease to exist at some point. All it does it add a somewhat absurd end phase where babies mysteriously stop being born, and the population "naturally" dwindles down to the last ten survivors frantically running around the planet looking for food.

I would imagine that 3D work is basically done here as it is, and 3D entities are no longer incarnating. Dual bodied entities are 4D entities incarnating into a "less dense body." So I agree, I doubt any 3D entity would want to incarnate here after 3D vibes cease to stream, but I don't think the 3D plane will simply disappear, and thought-forms will hold it together until purged.

Until purged? What is this purging of which you speak?

I don't think that's very clear...

I don't know how it could be stated any clearer. I think you are making apples out of bananas here.

it's possible that simply 3D vibes will completely cease to instream at that point, but that doesn't mean that they'll be gone from space/time. We know that it's going to be a gradual shift to the 4D sphere and to 4D bodies, that is one thing Ra was rather clear about

Nothing about this quote changes the fact that there will be a moment when the 3D sphere "completely" ceases to exist.

I don't think that is what the main debate between gradual and instant is about though. The gateway to intelligent infinity will open, somehow, someway, for all to access at a given point. Whether this means it becomes available to them in passing to time/space (through mechanism of harvest or naturally), or within incarnation, or some way we can't comprehend, is unknown.

Certainly, there are several unknowns. However it is known that the contact with intelligent infinity CAN be made within incarnation, as Ra stated that those who contact intelligent infinity can be harvested at will at any time during the cycle.

Here's some tricky wording which definitely offers some room for interpretation. Ra says "continue unabated." Unabated means without reduction in intensity. So it's very possible Ra was saying that the intensity of the inconveniences will continue for 30 years then gradually slow down, or possibly stop completely. "Due to harvest," yes, it's possible that if harvest is instant, these inconveniences will simply stop and things will be fine, or if harvest is gradual, the increasing harmony among the society complex will gradually cause the inconveniences to end.

We shall see. However, I still don't see a reason for things to continue going on for very long post-harvest. This is a planetary-wide event. Human beings are like microbes living in the membranous film on the surface of the planet. When it goes, we go.

A gradualist view is very human-centric. We think that the universe somehow cares that little Timmy will never get the chance to grow up and become a baseball star, or that Jane won't ever get to have her fairy-tale princess wedding, or that Gandalf the cat didn't quite make it to the next level. So because we can't imagine that there is more to life outside of our own little dramas, we would rather lie to ourselves and believe that the whole entire universe is going to wait for every last person to get their act together.

Harvest is a gift. To view it as an act of heartless cruelty on the part of the universe because we will be separated from our loved ones says a lot about where somebody's head it at. It kind of flies in the face of everything Ra is talking about in the Law of One.

We are All One. But the time has come for a parting of the ways. This is a good thing, and normal, though fetched with some minor inconveniences. All is well. When it is all said and done, everybody will be in an environment which is much more conducive to growth based upon where they are at in the process.

Right now we have a mixed class where the gifted kids, the mentally challenged kids, and the normal kids are all thrown in together. The end result is nobody learns much of anything, but simply gets more and more frustrated with each other as time goes on. It is a sad truth that perhaps some good friendships will be lost when the class gets broken up, but it is in the best interest of all to part ways and allow each to learn with others that are at their own level.

Though the school year may be "winding down", and though there might still be a few lessons to be learned, the day will come that will be the last day, and after that day class is over.