Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

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I'm incorrect because there is no necessity of being disincarnate for intelligent infinity contact? You do realize that intelligent infinity is contacted for various reasons? For example, healing. So of course there is no obligation to be disincarnate for intelligent infinity contact?

the contacting of intelligent infinity for healing, and during harvest, are of different intensity.

just like how negatives have not.

They contacted intelligent infinity, due to polarization, then died. And?

you are just remembering the named ones who died.

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35.5 Questioner: Thank you. That is an important example I believe. I was wondering if any of those who were subordinate to Adolf at that time were able to polarize in a harvestable nature on the negative path?

Ra: I am Ra. We can speak only of two entities who may be harvestable in a negative sense, others still being in the physical incarnation: one known to you as Hermann; the other known, as it preferred to be called, Himmler.

it is possible that some of these may still be alive at this point in time.

Certainly, there are several unknowns. However it is known that the contact with intelligent infinity CAN be made within incarnation, as Ra stated that those who contact intelligent infinity can be harvested at will at any time during the cycle.

After death...

your continued insistence despite the clear evidences pointed to, and coming in a totally un-argumented or rationalized form, is logic defying.

before you attempt to go slap a 2 words reply in someone's post without any logic or reason again, i am going to reiterate this :

35.5 Questioner: Thank you. That is an important example I believe. I was wondering if any of those who were subordinate to Adolf at that time were able to polarize in a harvestable nature on the negative path?

Ra: I am Ra. We can speak only of two entities who may be harvestable in a negative sense, others still being in the physical incarnation: one known to you as Hermann; the other known, as it preferred to be called, Himmler.

there is no obligation of dying, for harvest.

Population Earth: 7 billion... 6 billion... 2 billion... 1 billion... 100 million... 1 million... 1 hundred thousand... 1 thousand... 1 hundred, ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three, two, one........ ZERO.

The gradualist argument doesn't circumvent the fact that 3D earth will cease to exist at some point. All it does it add a somewhat absurd end phase where babies mysteriously stop being born, and the population "naturally" dwindles down to the last ten survivors frantically running around the planet looking for food.

now come to think of it, indeed, even if for the 3d population to cease even at the end of 700 years, even in the smoothest way, the world population needs to not only totally stop increasing now, but also start immediately decreasing by 10 million every year. if transition takes 100 years, this has to go up to 70 million a year. even if we say that there are 100 million or so 3-4d incarnates. (that would be a rather high amount tho, even Ra's population at the end of their journey in this octave is 60 million, with all that joined, their harvest was 6.5 out of 30 million or so).

i havent thought about this up till this point.

There's no obligation, sure, but that doesn't mean it will be forced up incarnated entities. It could, or it couldn't.

unfortunately, at this point in time, it seems there is : 'at the end of last cycle, all are harvested regardless of progress'.

I can't help you very much there. You have the idea already in your head what you think harvest is, but you can't expect people to agree with you when there are other interpretations on the matter. The quotes you've provided, in my eyes, are not conclusive in the least. And like I've said, just because you don't agree with other interpretations doesn't mean they don't exist.

actually, the 'idea in my head' is different than how i would like to happen. despite this, due to the evident conclusions in the given information, i am concluding what i explained.

i am at a loss to see exactly that - endless amount of pointers ranging from harvest being told to be going to HAPPEN in 2011 to 'all are harvested regardless of progress' to people in incarnation contacting intelligent infinity and getting harvested and so on was reiterated. yet, still, 'it is unclear'.

and there is one person who reiterates 2 word replies to something that is already having been cleared, without providing any arguments.

i cant conclude anything else about these than 'personal bias' at this point.

I don't think it's upsetting to consider other possibilities. The idea that one side of this debate is denying the other because it is upsetting to them is presumptuous on both sides. It seems to be a fallback tactic of projecting ideas on the other side to help justify their stance in your mind. It's rather easy for me to imagine a scenario where there is no instant shift or global cataclysm. It's a possible scenario, not the scenario I have concluded harvest will be like: children being born now are dual bodied, all 3D entities alive now die naturally in the next 70-80 years, now or some point in the future all disincarnate entities are offered intelligent infinity to decide whether to be harvested, and those entities which die in the near future will be offered the same thing upon their passing. The dual bodies continue to incarnate, and continue to manifest 4D sphere/bodies/society, and at some point in the next 100-700 years (Ra's own estimation), 3D has been gradually phased out without any instant, noticeable event.

It's not the only possible scenario, but it fits in with Ra's words.

first of all, tenet is right - there are mechanics planned by infinite intelligence which act regardless of what happens due to free will in some locale. the very things that make life go around actually.

so very possibly, there is indeed a mechanism for depopulation of a planet too, along with harvest.

it is naive to exaggerate 3-4d transitionary entities being born. the numbers of these entities were told to be low, and it was told to be a recent phenomenon.

currently world population is GROWING at a rate of approx 1% per year. notice - not babies being born, but population GROWING. birth rate is close to 2%, decline rate is close to 1%. this means, 60 million entities are being born, at the least.

first, it is impossible for these all to be 3-4d harvested entities here for 4d experience - 60 million is a whopass number. estimating a 'good' harvest rate of 10% (even Ra's successful harvest was around only 5%), this means there has to be a 600 million crowded planet somewhere, giving 60 million positive harvest for every one of our years. this is a phenomenal number.

second, even if that was as such, and 60 million harvested 4d entities in dual bodies were being born every year, the world would have already turned into a paranormal circus due to the feats these entities are able to manifest thanks to the 3-4d situation of their body and their remembering of 4d vibrations due to harvestee status. we dont have such a situation.

third, we were told that a lot of entities were coming here, for the harvest occasion, and this was happening in seniority order. this neglected piece of information completes the above, which concludes as the majority of those being born on this planet being harvest-nearing 3d senior entities.

which would necessitate them to be in 3d bodies for sure, since they would not be able to handle the 4d aspects of a 3-4d body.

What about 4D Earth, which is already inhabited by the dual bodied individuals (who also inhabit 3D Earth)? Those people have to be around to create 4D bodies.

they will. however their numbers can be nowhere near 60 million being born every year.

Dual bodied individuals transform our 3D ways and thought-forms to better fit a 4D society, eventually society has become a 4D society through the efforts of 4D individuals incarnating in dual bodies. At that point, 4D bodies are done evolving and society has successfully rid itself of 3D ways.

wow. unfortunately i have to say that this is too much wishful thinking.

you cannot 'transform' souls. a 3d soul, is still a 3d soul as it is. only its advancement through lived lives and experiences changes that. if it was too easy for placing 100-300 million 4d entities in dual bodies or other bodies in the middle of 7 billion 3d entities and having the former 'transform' the other into '4d ways', everything ranging from the transition you speak of to harvest, even the advancement of the soul would be too easy.

a 3d entity is a 3d entity. as long as he is vibrating in 3d frequencies in mind/spirit, he is going to produce 3d thoughts and thought forms.

you cannot 'transform' 7 billion souls. souls are not chickens in a coop. each one of them have their own grand path to follow.

Just because it can be doesn't mean that it will be forced upon people. It's possible it will be available in space/time, or that it will be made available upon the entities transition into time/space.

again, 'all are harvested regardless of progress at the end of last cycle'. 'made available' doesnt fit in with this. going through harvest is not an optional choice at the last harvest of a planet.

What harvest means is incredibly unimportant

you people still havent grasped what 'contact with intelligent infinity' means ...

it is something that cannot be attained until towards end of 7d as a manifestation. you can contact intelligent infinity increasingly as the densities progress, but, apparently a continuous unison type of contact does not happen until 7d end.

therefore, for any entity 6d and lower, the harvest event which opens a gate to intelligent infinity, is a great opportunity.