Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

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billion is not a normal number, and the population number we see on this planet in the magnitude of 6-7 billion would not be attainable in a planet of this size without inordinate amounts of technology being given to the society living there, like it happened here.

Possibly so. Although I would point out that the vast majority of technology we have is aimed at feeding our bodies, moving our bodies around, and passing communication from one body to another. So if these three needs are drastically lessened in 4D, it would not necessitate such a degree of technology.
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You lost me. Are you talking about 3D entities on a 3D planet, or 4D entities on a 4D planet?

i didnt mean it for 4d societies. i meant it for 3d societies, in connection with how many harvests there should be from 3d planets to sport a population that would replace 6 billion. and the factor of technology would determine how big populations 3d societies could support.

80 planets is not inconceivable. [Possibly 88? See below] Also, for all we know there are a few planets out there which are about to have inordinately large harvests. Gotta have balance! But again, I was talking about the total capacity, not the population immediately post-harvest.

80 planets supporting earth-like populations is inconceivable. just looking back at the mishaps happened here in maldek, mars, this planet is easy to say that if you gave similar levels of technology to these 80 potential 3d planets, you would just end up not only causing mishaps, but also reducing harvests. (see how harvest was told to be going to be very small on this planet). so, it wouldnt statistically be possible or reasonable. moreover, for this kind of technology to work, all the logoi would need to have chosen bodies that are capable of opposable thumbs or similar environment modification heavy bodies, increasing the strength of the veil.

the points above totally leaving out all kinds of spiritual bias compatibilities, and archetype compatibilities in between logoi.

really, on a sidenote this veil thing seems well planned. since its in between conscious/subconscious, any inordinate amount of technology given to a 3d planet strengthens the veil, and decreases the harvest.

True. Although this logos seems to be very intent on maximizing the ability of the sphere to support a wide diversity of conditions, spiritual biases, and bodily forms. I am reminded of some ideas put forth by the Pleiadians that the earth is intended to become some sort of galactic library, or repository. Certainly, at this stage of the game it feels much like a zoo!

actually it isnt.

in this planet, only conscious-mind heavy, land based creatures that would be comfortable with manipulating their environment to considerable degree are supported. an entity which evolved in a water planet from, say, a jellyfish base, or in another planet as a tree would not be comfortable here.

1D- has 88 naturally occurring elements. Assuming the vast majority of possible naturally-occuring compounds are composed primarily of three elements or less, the number of combinations would be 88!/85!, or about 658K.

you cannot count the potential number of molecule combinations that may happen as entities of 1d. just like how hominoid monkey body here is not counted as a singular combination/entity, but, there are 7 billion entities, the 'rock beingness' that Ra speaks of, for example, should not be limited to elemental combinations, but entities that inhabit it. just like how animal group souls are. there isnt 1 'pigeon entity'. but, many entities inhabiting pigeon group.

2D - currently has 8.7 +/- 1.3 million species. So that is about an order of magnitude greater.

same goes here. variety of species do not denote the number of entities in a species.

3D - currently has about 7 billion people. Another order of magnitude greater.

Based on this, I would expect the trend to continue into 4D- eventually maximizing at around 7 trillion uniquely identifiable entities, and then the trend would start to reverse around the midpoint of 4D, reaching a minimum of uniquely identifiable entities at the end of 7D.

your approach not only starts off on the wrong foot, but also switches in mid-phase : you treated entire species as a single entity in 2d, but then turned to treating entire species/society of humans as multiple entities.

that is not important though - as said, the number of entities is different from potential combinations/types of body that can be used.

I suppose the real question would be, not how many subentities compose Ra, but how many Ra-like beings there are in the universe.

i dont think so. as Ra says, as the densities go up, the entities become very refined, and even their potential mating choice becomes very, very strict and preferential. this would go the same for any kind of grouping, leave aside forming society complex. and a society complex is something that shares similar tenets with a merger of mind/spirits.

I suppose there is no way to discern for sure from here. But there are a few different questions that seem to be on the table here:

1. What percentage of the overall population of 4D earth will be represented by those newly harvested?

2. What percentage of those newly harvested will have originated from 3D earth?

3. For each entity new to 4D, how many progeny can be expected? (Moreover... what the heck will it mean to procreate, anyway? I think some are assuming that it will be like 3D... where a mom and a dad get together and make babies, and then they all live together in family units.)

4. What is the total theoretical capacity of 4D earth, keeping in mind that physicality is optional?

the first #2 doesnt matter much, as per the numbers i have proposed earlier. regardless of answers to 1 and 2, this galaxy doesnt seem capable of supporting a 60 million 4d entities per year birth rate to this planet.

actually, in addition, i forgot to mention that any kind of 4d entities arriving from elsewhere would mean that these entities did NOT continue into 4d in their own planet - meaning, they were not in their last cycle. because, if that planet is in its last cycle, then harvest would happen, and the planet would become a positive 4d planet and the entities which had that planet as their home, would NOT leave.

therefore, any entity arriving to this planet as 4d starter would have to either end up getting harvested in first two cycles of a planet, or had to come here through a mishap or anything else. (ie, the sun not supporting 4d enough etc and so on). despite this seem to increase the number potentiality because now there seems to be possibility for harvestee transfers from the first 2 cycles of planets, still all 80 planets would need to be precisely in 1st, or 2nd cycles at this nexus for it to happen.

also a good point of note is the curious situation of Ra at the end of their first 2 cycles - what did Ra do after they got harvested to numbers of 6 million in first cycle ? did they leave the planet for a temporary 4d planet ? or did they incarnate as if wanderers ? this was not at all mentioned. or did they wait in time/space, not to mention that time flows differently in these two dimensions apparently. if it is possible to form a 4d sphere with sufficient number of 4d harvestees, did they create such a sphere and live it in venus ?