Share your vision for the harvest

[Tenet Nosce]

They'll leave it behind when they are able to do so, which is quite a while according to our time standards.

They will be able to do so immediately upon harvest. All entities are in time/space, and the incarnated entities are also in space/time. I explained this at some length earlier. Ra said that all harvested entities will die, according to third density necessities. Ra did not say that all entities will be harvested after they die. If anything, we are to take "harvest" and "death" to be simultaneous events. Apparently, in your view, Ra in addition to not knowing how to use words normally also doesn't know how to express tenses properly.

"The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. " [and body complex to be formed from that material]

Yes.. the space/time of a different vibrational configuration is fourth density. Earth (as in the planetary consciousness) is now in fourth density, and has been since at least 1981. The majority of its people are not, and their persistence upon this sphere is causing all manner of inconveniences and difficulty for everybody else.

"This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration."

Exactly. At that time. And before that time. And after that time. Ra didn't say at no other time was this sphere in fourth-dimension vibration. You are confusing a planet "being in fourth density" with having a fourth density planetary body physically inhabitable by fourth density sub-logoi. You also appear to be having the same sort of brain fart that Don was suffering from when he asked this question.

"The influxes of true color green energy complexes will more and more create the conditions in which the atomic structure of cells of bodily complexes is that of the density of love."

This is pretty much the only quote that seems more gradualist than sudden by virtue of the "more and more". It is also a reply to a fairly distorted query about "third-density harvestable who have been transferred". You are plucking this out of context... go back three responses:

Ra: I am Ra. At this time the cosmic influxes are conducive to true color green core particles being formed and material of this nature thus being formed. However, there is a mixture of the yellow-ray and green-ray environments at this time necessitating the birthing of transitional mind/body/spirit complex types of energy distortions. At full activation of the true color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time, shall we say, to the appropriate type of vehicle to appreciate in full the fourth-density planetary environment. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time.

The sphere will be solid and inhabitable on its own. Not this sphere will transform itself into fourth density, which will look mostly like third density, replete with three gas stations on every corner and a McDonald's on every public block. Also, the green-ray environment was existing at THAT nexus (1981) in BOTH time/space AND space/time.

"Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. "

Thanks for proving my point. It is another sphere. Not this sphere. Plain as day.

"You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. Thus, there will seem to be, shall we say, a new breed. These are those incarnating for fourth-density work."

Yes, and? How does this refute anything I have been saying? Now, in 2011, thirty years after the contact, we can indeed see that there has been a "new breed" born throughout humanity. The observations of this statement are now in the PAST, relative to this current nexus. Hello? Have you been paying attention this whole time? Are you just too young to know the difference? Or are you too old to learn new tricks?

"The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth-density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth-density upon this plane."

See above.

"At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. "

Again, plucked right out of context. This time, you didn't even include the whole quote.

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.

This is difficult to estimate. There are uncharacteristic anomalies. There were, in 1981, those incarnate who were already on 4D lessons. The 3D climate is retarding the process. Finally, this cannot be accurate, Ra says.

So, this cannot be accurate, but we are going to take it anyway. Moreover, we are going to build an ENTIRE THEORY based upon this one quote talking about "100 and 700 years" while COMPLETELY IGNORING the cues in the rest of the reply that basically say "disregard this answer". And not only THAT but we are going to stick to our guns despite being presented OVER AND OVER AGAIN with other quotes that CLEARLY POINT to another idea, and moreover are CLEARLY worded, plain as day, with NO CAVEATS from Ra to be cautious about taking the statement at face value.

So here you have thrown out a few quotes which I have shown to be highly coherent with my view. Two of them are being taken out of context, and used as the entire foundation of the gradualist theory, which directly contradicts the entire rest of the material.

On the other hand, I and others have REPEATEDLY put out SLEWS of quotes that DIRECTLY CONTRADICT your view... and you continue to COMPLETELY IGNORE THEM.

I just wrote a whole freaking post to you full of quotes to support my view, and you (YET AGAIN) flat out ignored them completely. Not only THAT, but you also ignored the fact that I SPECIFICALLY SAID that you have been ignoring two of those quotes, in particular.

Do you really expect to have a conversation with somebody if you repeatedly IGNORE what they say and just REPEAT YOURSELF, ad nauseum? I mean, really, is this how you interact with others in your everyday life? I'm sorry, but to move forward in this discussion, the burden of proof is on YOU to show how all these other quotes can be reconciled with your view.

At this point, it appears to me that you are just being rude, inconsiderate, and more concerned with being "right" in your own mind than teach/learning something. Either that or you are willfully derailing threads on purpose just to cause a ruckus. Or possibly that your mind is so discombobulated that you can't even follow a logical discussion, or understand the basic fundamentals of argumentation and debate.