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    Thread: Harvest as Salvation


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    09-07-2011, 03:15 PM
    @monkey

    I am not excluding your sentiments. I understand the parameters of 3D and the initiative to make a choice and reach balance to become a harvestable soul; I think we all do. That is not the 4D reality though.

    As far as the "car" appearing, I think your previous statement can be flipped: "Focus on the inner world is to neglect the outer world". It goes both ways. In this light, i'm saying we're all right. What you have pointed out is absolutely true; what it does NOT do is preclude me from my own conclusion.

    The fact is that I believe the harvest is not for "us". For many of us, we have the opportunity to make our 4D lives a reality right now; our basic needs are met and we frivolously spend our time speaking of philosophy, meditation, and other things. As far as the inner shaping the outer, I implore you to think about the heart of a young African/Indian/Chinese/Russian/South American child who comes from nothing. Think of the dreams and ideas, of the solutions to problems, that these young minds undoubtedly come up with, and think how they are squashed in our current paradigm. Imagine the harvest is for these souls; those who are held down and back by the order of the world.

    When I speak of this 'utopian' harvest, I understand the hesitation, but my response to it is "WHY?!?!?" Do we not want this? What do we gain by reinforcing that things must stay the same? Aren't we just reinforcing the 3d world and thought-forms that many of us seek respite from? Sometimes I feel like this is what it all comes down to: If harvest is not for you, can you still be excited for it? Can you get on board with others being lifted up rather than yourself?

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    [split] Are you seeking the light...? - by Raman - 09-06-2011, 12:19 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Namaste - 09-07-2011, 01:50 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 02:00 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 02:35 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by native - 09-07-2011, 02:42 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 02:43 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Namaste - 09-07-2011, 02:48 PM
    RE: [split] Are you seeking the light...? - by Tenet Nosce - 09-07-2011, 03:09 PM
    RE: [split] Are you seeking the light...? - by Namaste - 09-07-2011, 05:37 PM
    RE: [split] Are you seeking the light...? - by Raman - 09-07-2011, 10:22 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 03:15 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 03:29 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 03:34 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 03:46 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 04:36 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by unity100 - 09-07-2011, 05:01 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 07:06 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 05:16 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 05:49 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Namaste - 09-07-2011, 06:28 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 06:49 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Namaste - 09-08-2011, 06:15 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-08-2011, 07:43 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Ankh - 09-08-2011, 08:16 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 07:05 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 07:15 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by unity100 - 09-07-2011, 07:16 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by 3DMonkey - 09-07-2011, 07:24 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Richard - 09-08-2011, 10:33 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by hogey11 - 09-07-2011, 07:13 PM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by Bring4th_Austin - 09-06-2011, 12:40 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by Raman - 09-06-2011, 12:43 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by drifting pages - 09-06-2011, 12:44 AM
    Harvest as Salvation - by Bring4th_Austin - 09-06-2011, 12:58 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Monica - 09-06-2011, 03:47 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by unity100 - 09-06-2011, 07:39 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Richard - 09-07-2011, 11:28 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by unity100 - 09-07-2011, 02:34 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Richard - 09-07-2011, 02:40 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by StormShadow - 09-06-2011, 05:11 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Raman - 09-06-2011, 10:12 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by StormShadow - 09-06-2011, 07:34 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Raman - 09-06-2011, 08:37 PM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by Namaste - 09-07-2011, 11:53 AM
    RE: Harvest as Salvation - by kycahi - 09-07-2011, 12:23 PM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by Bring4th_Austin - 09-06-2011, 01:02 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by BrownEye - 09-06-2011, 01:19 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by Raman - 09-06-2011, 10:18 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by unity100 - 09-06-2011, 11:44 AM
    RE: Are you seeking the light...? - by 3DMonkey - 09-06-2011, 02:11 PM

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