(09-08-2011, 02:30 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: OK I admit I haven't read this entire thread, so someone may have already posted this, but here is a discussion that had a lot of excellent points about the 2012 vs 2011 debate:
http://2012.tribe.net/thread/a7e467c5-b5...db0ca17776
And...I have a reeeeeeeeaaaaaalllly dumb question.
Why, exactly, are we granting so much validity to the Mayan Calendar anyway? I mean, just who were the Mayans? Are they to be trusted? Didn't they, like, sacrifice babies and stuff?
I totally admit to being very ignorant here, but just how are their predictions any different from, say, Biblical prophecies? (Aside from being way more technically intelligent, of course.) But do we know anything about the polarity of the Mayans? Is the emperor wearing any clothes?
what south american landing group did in south america has been left without detail by Ra. however, we know that their work there was extensive, and they had been successful to a great extent. only to have their teachings distorted to end up in human sacrifices and so on, prompting another entity being sent to the location to fix things. ra says this entity also became successful, and then left. in addition we learn that they built underground cities.
however, we dont know what they actually imparted as knowledge.
if we look at the south american cultures, we find a huge, rather disproportionate amount of astronomy and time tracking. i personally think that the time tracking these civilizations did, are way too much compared to their needs. agriculture is proposed, however, their agriculture was not of an all encompassing level like in egypt, and they didnt even have a nile to track the time of. even if you think about rain season, the area is generally mountainous and agriculture is generally done on mountain terraces. (mountains tend to rain on their faces that look towards incoming clouds).
add to that the fact that what caused egyptians to go that hard for astronomy was the pyramids and teachings by Ra, and the situation becomes clearer. moreover, south american culture tracks the return of some entity named quetzalcoatl. this is probably the name given to the group that contacted these cultures, and its last appearance is that last entity.
when we look at these mayan calendars we speak about, we find that for example one is basically a calendar that tracks the influence of sun on that day on the planet, its particular energy, and its effects on born entities. (quiche count) http://www.mysticomaya.com/a_01_cal/ENG_tzolkin.htm talks about particular energies, their meanings, and how they affect the planet and entities born on that day, and their meaning in afterlife, and in the realm of disincarnates, and their relevance to creation, and creator they call 'ajaw'.
other calendars track other things, and there is a calendar for performing stately, administrative functions -> this calendar is taken as basis for 2012 actually.
south american cultures didnt even have writing. mayans were tying wool strings to each other with knots and transferring information and history through these. the amount of astronomy, timekeeping done goes way too much for the other traits of mayan culture.
coupled with these, it is rather straightforward to conclude that these information had to do with south american group. distorted or undistorted.
since they are also preparing for harvest, a calendar that tracks cycles and ends at a certain date, becomes important.