09-23-2011, 03:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-23-2011, 03:41 PM by Tenet Nosce.)
This is curious though:
http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/isus/
I thought that Einstein proved that the physical universe is NOT Euclidean... hmm... so wait would that mean perhaps that variations from non-Euclidean geometry are a result of "bleedthrough" from other densities?!
If I recall correctly, the high degree of permeability between densities is somewhat unique to this Logos, and in many ways an innovation over earlier creations.
It made sense to me, but I sensed you grasping a bit for the language. I was well on my way to being a physicist before changing my major to biology and philosophy. Glad to be of service.
I went and deleted my thread on this subject so as not to dilute the conversation. If I may make a suggestion- which is entirely up to you to employ- it would be to change the name of this thread to "Beyond Light Speed". You may do this by editing your first post. Or not, such as may be your preference.
http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/isus/
Quote:2. The physical universe conforms to the relations of ordinary commutative mathematics, its primary magnitudes are absolute, and its geometry is Euclidean.
I thought that Einstein proved that the physical universe is NOT Euclidean... hmm... so wait would that mean perhaps that variations from non-Euclidean geometry are a result of "bleedthrough" from other densities?!
If I recall correctly, the high degree of permeability between densities is somewhat unique to this Logos, and in many ways an innovation over earlier creations.
77.24 Wrote:Questioner: Now, there are several general concepts that I would like to be sure that we have clear before going into this process and I will certainly adhere to the requests that you have just stated.
When our Logos designed this particular evolution of experience It decided to use a system of which we spoke allowing for polarization through total free will. How is this different from the Logos that does not do this? I see the Logos creating the possibility of increase in vibration through the densities. How are the densities provided for and set by the Logos, if you can answer this?
Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working. The psychic attack upon this instrument has, shall we say, left scars which must be tended, in our own opinion, in order to maintain the instrument.
Let us observe your second density. Many come more rapidly to third density than others not because of an innate efficiency of catalysis but because of unusual opportunities for investment. In just such a way those of fourth density may invest third, those of fifth density may invest fourth. When fifth density has been obtained the process takes upon itself a momentum based upon the characteristics of wisdom when applied to circumstance. The Logos Itself, then, in these instances provides investment opportunities, if you wish to use that term. May we enquire if there are any brief queries at this space/time?
82.12 Wrote:Questioner: I was interested specifically in how this very first division showed up in this octave. I was interested to know if it made the transition through first, second, third, fourth, etc. densities? I would like to take the first mind/body/spirit complexes and trace their experience from the very start to the present so that I could better understand the condition that we are in now by comparing it with this original growth. Could you please tell me precisely how this came about as to the formation of the planets and growth through the densities, if that is the way it happened, please?
Ra: I am Ra. Your queries seem more confused than your basic mental distortions in this area. Let us speak in general and perhaps you may find a less confused and more simple method of eliciting information in this area.
A very great deal of creation was manifested without the use of the concepts involved in consciousness, as you know it. The creation itself is a form of consciousness which is unified, the Logos being the one great heart of creation. The process of evolution through this period, which may be seen to be timeless, is most valuable to take into consideration, for it is against the background of this essential unity of the fabric of creation that we find the ultimate development of the Logoi which chose to use that portion of the harvested consciousness of the Creator to move forward with the process of knowledge of self. As it had been found to be efficient to use the various densities, which are fixed in each octave, in order to create conditions in which self-conscious sub-Logoi could exist, this was carried out throughout the growing flower-strewn field, as your simile suggests, of the one infinite creation.
The first beings of mind, body, and spirit were not complex. The experience of mind/body/spirits at the beginning of this octave of experience was singular. There was no third-density forgetting. There was no veil. The lessons of third density are predestined by the very nature of the vibratory rates experienced during this particular density and by the nature of the quantum jump to the vibratory experiences of fourth density.
90.24 Wrote:Questioner: Were there any other circumstances, biases, consequences, or plans set up by the Logos other than those we have discussed for the evolution of Its parts through the densities?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes.
90.25 Wrote:Questioner: What were these?
Ra: I am Ra. One more; that is, the permeability of the densities so that there may be communication from density to density and from plane to plane or sub-density to sub-density.
90.26 Wrote:Questioner: Then as I see the plan for the evolution by this Logos it was planned to create as vivid an experience as possible but also one which was somewhat informed with respect to the Infinite Creator and able to accelerate the progress as a function of will because of the permeability of densities. Have I covered accurately the general plan of this Logos with respect to Its evolution?
Ra: I am Ra. Excepting the actions of the unmanifested self and the actions of self with other-self, you have been reasonably thorough.
91.18 Wrote:Questioner: I assume, then, that twenty-two is the greatest number of archetypes. I also ask is it the minimum number presently in use by any Logos to Ra’s knowledge?
Ra: I am Ra. The fewest are the two systems of five which are completing the cycles or densities of experience.
You must grasp the idea that the archetypes were not developed at once but step by step, and not in order as you know the order at this space/time but in various orders. Therefore, the two systems of fives were using two separate ways of viewing the archetypical nature of all experience. Each, of course, used the Matrix, the Potentiator, and the Significator for this is the harvest with which our creation began.
One way or system of experimentation had added to these the Catalyst and the Experience. Another system if you will, had added Catalyst and Transformation. In one case the methods whereby experience was processed was further aided but the fruits of experience less aided. In the second case the opposite may be seen to be the case.
(09-23-2011, 03:13 PM)Conifer16 Wrote: This is what I was trying to get at. Sorry if my post didn't make sense.
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I am taking this observation to actually be a result of "bleedthrough" effects of fourth density. Hopefully, this discovery will lead to some real scientific investigation into the densities.[End Quote]
Oh and thanks for the links.
It made sense to me, but I sensed you grasping a bit for the language. I was well on my way to being a physicist before changing my major to biology and philosophy. Glad to be of service.

I went and deleted my thread on this subject so as not to dilute the conversation. If I may make a suggestion- which is entirely up to you to employ- it would be to change the name of this thread to "Beyond Light Speed". You may do this by editing your first post. Or not, such as may be your preference.