10-06-2009, 12:17 PM
(10-05-2009, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: (please give me a reference for these waves, I'm not familiar with them).
Hello again,
The first, second and third wave of wanderers was something I picked up from an interview with Carla. In reading the text again I see that my memory has fudged the dates just a bit. Here is a quote (sorry, it is a bit long):
http://www.llresearch.org/interviews/int..._0610.aspx Wrote:Carla: Yes. The term “wanderer” was used by the Ra group and other Confederation entities in talking about people who, as I described before, decided to enter the Earth plane and take Earth bodies and become natives of planet Earth, so that we would have the right to help. And many, many people have done this. As a matter of fact, I think we are on our third generation of wanderers now. I think the original wanderers were oldsters like me, who were just very focused and dedicated to service. You see a huge outpouring of art, music, the pop stars that were writing spiritually oriented songs like the Beatles, in the late sixties. This is part of that first wave of wanderers.
There was a second wave of wanderers that sometimes gets called, like, Generation X or whatever. They were a second wave of wanderers that were not quite so focused on service to the planet. They suddenly realized that this was a time of tremendous change and they could help themselves to become better people by entering the very rigorous metaphysical atmosphere of the fiery furnace of Planet Earth in late third density.
So you see a lot of people who are very self-involved in their spiritual process. And what they need is not so much to be helped with their process, because they are doing very well with that, but to be reminded that they did come to serve others and that they need to kick that energy up a notch and open up to the whole world. You have to realize that when you work on yourself, you are working on the world. That is how you change the world. You don’t go out and physically try to change the world. You work on yourself. So the second generation of wanderers has that energy to it.
And then the third generation of Wanderers is these Indigo kids that we are seeing now. Information from our Confederation sources, especially the Q’uo group, has it that these Indigo kids are the first graduates of third-density Planet Earth. And what did they do when they got graduated and offered their choice of how they wanted to be of service in fourth density? They decided to come right back here and help the rest of their class graduate.
(10-05-2009, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: This is an interesting point (to me at any rate), in that what determines the Confederation's ability to respond is the magnitude of the total 3D call, be it from wanderers or from native 3D entities. So if the Wanderers are able to remember their purpose, then they can add to the call and thus allow more Wanderers who then further add to the call. Although this is off-topic to the current thread, I think it points to a significant opportunity that L&L Research, David Wilcock, and similar sites all offer. You see, by simply increasing the number of awakened Wanderers we are able to significantly increase the magnitude of the call and thus significantly increase the amount of service that can be offered by the Confederation. Since every awakened Wanderer doubles the magnitude of the call, and if only about 10% of the 60M+ Wanderers incarnate in 1981 were awake, then you can just imagine what would happen to the call if it is further doubled by the Dual Activated entities and an increase of newly awakened Wanderers incarnate at present. I suspect that all of these factors are behind the changes we are seeing in the world consciousness.
I think it's very interesting as well. And I would agree that the number of people who are awakening is likely very relevant to the changes we are observing. The world is changing faster and faster, so much so that some older folks can barely recognize the world they now live in, if they have not made efforts to stay current. Instant communications? World economy? Black president??! It is a fascinating time, no doubt. I would only comment on your above paragraph that I do not think that the Wanderers are the only ones who are important when it comes to waking up and adding to the call. Any entity who does so is of aid. Although certainly a woken Wanderer may be of especial aid so that they might fulfill whatever pre-incarnational mission they had intended to accomplish.
(10-05-2009, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: On some of your other questions, I don't think that any of the information or inventions brought forth in recent centuries was needed for Harvest. I think that they were seeded (or possibly ceded) to 3D Earth by well intentioned entities that came with missions of helping out. Ra says that Tesla, for example, came with the intent of providing plentiful, low cost, energy but was not able to achieve his goal. The same can be said for nuclear power and many types of technology. The existence of Free Will, combined with the presence of oppositely polarized entities and interests, seems to have effectively neutralized the positive benefits intended with these inspirations.
Yes, I think I agree that the high level of technology we enjoy is probably not needed at a harvest time such as ours. Yet I still find it somewhat significant that so many leaps forward with innovations like electricity, light bulbs, motor cars, airplanes, medicines, computers, etc. etc. has occurred in seemingly so short a period right at the end of a 75,000 year cycle. Consider our comparatively primitive standards of life for at least 74,800 of those years. We've only enjoyed such luxuries for 0.25% of our major cycle. This is all irrelevant as regards Dual-Activated entities of course, just a side observation. And of course, it may all be coincidence. AND, who knows, compared to a few thousand years from now people may well consider our current time to be extremely primitive.
(10-05-2009, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: As to when 3D entities will cease to exist on the Earth, I can't argue with your suggested timeline, but I would point that it is based upon the assumption that the current 3D lifespan will hold sway after most 4D negative Harvestable entities have left. Recall that in early 3D, when life was more in keeping with the Law of One, the typical lifespan was 900 years. I don't see why 3D lives couldn't significantly increase after 2012.
You mean 3D/4D D.A. entities, right? Since 3d-only entities will be phased out after the end of the cycle. It could be! I suppose it depends on how much more harmonious the world and it's population becomes once that occurs. But assuming it does become so as I suspect it will, I can see no reason why they shouldn't live longer. It may be worth more discussion. Considering that the average life span of a 4th density entity is 90,000 years, we might expect some ramp-up towards that figure. (and, that 90k figure also merits more discussion, it certainly is a paradigm change for humanity, no?)
(10-05-2009, 10:05 AM)3D Sunset Wrote: Lastly, I would reiterate that IMHO, 4D has already begun in that there are 3D positively Harvested entities now incarnate with 4D bodies activated which enable them to use 4D light and vibrations (which are already present) to perform 4D work.
I think certainly we are starting to feel the effects of 4th density as it nears it's sunrise, but I do not think it has actually started, or will start officially until 3rd density is officially finished. Ra spoke of the 'galactic clock' as regards the start and end of cycles, which I think implies a good deal of precision. Our agreement on this is not really necessary to continue this D.A. discussion though.
I'll leave it here and offer you a chance to make any comments on the above before opening another line of thought I have rolling around in my noggin.