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    Thread: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared.


    Ali Quadir (Offline)

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    10-11-2009, 11:21 AM
    (10-08-2009, 05:51 PM)ahktu Wrote: Thanks for the further responses. I have wondered at times if I'm simply talking to my own soul. At times I don't like this idea because I miss those "others" out there so bad that I want to be sure I'm talking to ETs, but then I realize I AM talking to the ETs because I AM the ETs...it all gets very confusing. It makes me wonder about collective unconscious- could I bet hitting in on that somehow- that voice that is in all of us and IS all of us but most people never listen to it? Sometimes just thinking about it I go deeper and deeper and I feel like my brain might explode.
    I'm sure exploding brains aren't a good thing... Wink

    We call this material the Law of One, indicating that there is only unity... Even if you talk to an ET, you're still talking to your own soul. There is no one else but you. They are you, even if they've spent billions of years in another galaxy they'd still be you... This is why knowing or defining yourself is so important.. Once you do that anything anyone else ever tells you has a clear test of truth. If it's important there will be numerous omens and feelings informing you about what is real.

    And yes, this could be called the collective unconscious. Only it's not actually unconscious it's also more fundamental than consciousness. Meaning that normal day to day consciousness exists inside of it.

    You are touching this field. Basically, you've been working from it all your life assuming you were conscious most of that time Wink You're just now beginning to see it from a different perspective.

    Quote:As for the "code" it hasn't caused me to feel anything but a general sense of comfort.
    That must be similar to my own trancy state when speaking in tongues. In my opinion it never actually accomplished anything noticeable... It just felt good.

    Quote:When I look at them I feel something within me moving, but, like Ali mentioned, are they the product of my shift in consciousness or is the shift the product of my creating the symbols, which could very well have been an unconscious decision on my part to begin with?!? SO MUCH to think about!!!
    There is not much difference really. They are two sides of the amulet. You can't separate one from the other. We tend to think in duality. But there is another way of seeing it, as motion. Ra often uses the term "teach/learn" which means that the totality is participating in teaching and learning. It cannot stop one without stopping the other, it's a single act shared by two what we call individuals who are on another level just one being. Like all of humanity on some level is just one organism. This becomes easier to understand when you think about an ant hill or bee hive. Is the colony the individual life form? Or is this the individual insect? We know that these insect colonies process information on a level above the individual. Every individual insect just has behaviors that causes this information processing and purposeful behavior to emerge from the behaviors of individuals.

    This collective subconscious that you sensed and mentioned is literally it's mind. So when you sense inside, it is actually there. The difficulty is that it's a common experience but not commonly recognized as such, it's not painted red with yellow letters on it describing it's function.

    Quote:I suppose it isn't good to dwell on this stuff too much. If it helped, that's great. I should be thankful no matter the source and let that be that. I can't get off on one of my ruminations and forget why I'm doing all this to begin with.
    There are people who love hanging out in their mind. Those people should spend time hanging out in their mind! I'm certainly one of them. If God wanted us to think he would have given us a brain, right? So follow your inclinations. Follow your enthusiasm. Don't "not do" something because it doesn't fit expectations of what is appropriate. Allow yourself to be surprised when after a wild goose chase you've actually produced a goose that lays golden eggs.

    However, be aware of the trap where you start to treat spirituality as scouting. With the primary objective to gather as many merit badges as you can. I've known people who believe that if they do 100.000 situps they get some spiritual reward from it.

    In reality the rewards is theirs to take from the start, they just convinced themselves they need to do 100.000 situps first. In effect building hurdles for themselves.

    Ahktu Wrote:Also, it is great to know someone else experiences "thought balls" and abstract images that you're not sure whether to take literally. I was starting to think I was the odd one out in that area, since so many people seem to get a much more literal experience, hearing a voice in their head, seeing ETs in their room, etc.
    I've never seen an ET, or a UFO, or heard voices in my head. And the thoughtballs are occasional these days where they were much more often in the past. I guess many of my questions have been answered. Maybe I know what is needed for now. I've been involved in the occult before I came to the Law of One. And I've been in the same room with ghosts. I've had visitors from outside our density visit rituals.

    Apart from empathy energy awareness and the ability to tune into people and "motions" I'm pretty much blind as a bat Wink If everyone saw an apparition as clear as daylight, I'd probably miss it... With the exception that my body would likely be shaking burning or tingling.

    In situations where others have seen them I just get vibes from their approximate location usually my body responds strongly, the empathic reflex.

    Quote:Very rarely do I have an experience that takes place outside of my own head. One or two times it has happened, but not very often at all. I often get the thought imprint: "You're a writer. You don't need it put into words. You make words." I get the feeling the 'guys upstairs' find the whole thing humorous, and realize that discerning these things for myself helps me experience more growth- I've always been a 'hands on' type of person.
    Writing is a good thing. Just write when you feel like it, fiction, poems, whatever you feel brewing inside. It's likely some reflection of internal interactions. And by resolving these interactions in a written story you can actually resolve them inside. This psychoverse is vast and it's weird.


    Quote:Hopefully I will continue to grow and in time I'll be able to wrap my mind around these things better. Thanks for the support!
    Don't wrap so hard Smile In my experience these things are subjective, and occasionally they defy rationality. There is an instinct in the heart that tells you about these things. It uses subjective subconscious images and emotions as language which isn't always clear to the mind. Liken them to thoughtballs, only without rational thoughts. (Heartballs? Cool ) But in my experience the mind not getting it is not always as relevant as you'd expect. You still process the information and restructure yourself around it. You use the brain to interface with the city block consciousness. Even if you believe that the world will provide you still head for the supermarket occasionally to make sure it does...

    So allow this process to take place. Be nonjudgmental about it.

    The best thing is to just have fun, believe yourself, don't be afraid to be silly. Just allow it to happen. Play.. It doesn't matter if you're crazy. As long as you have fun and the people around you don't consider you a problem. Which is why earlier we suggested to show by example not by words.

    You suggest the guys upstairs have a sense of humor... Yes they have Wink I once decided to demand proof. If God existed he was to hand me a blue bouncing ball that day. I with my grandiose Ego decided to tell God what to do. I picked a blue bouncing ball because it could exist, but was uncommon enough to make it very unlikely for this to happen that day by chance. I was shown a number of bouncing balls, much more than was likely. Some were even thrown at me. None of them was blue... And I kept saying "No God the wish is a blue one". Only at the end of the day did I see a blue one, it had yellow stripes though, and I just gave in at that point. I did have the feeling of being a child treated by its elders with a lot of jokes and love. "Oh you demand do you? Lets have some fun with that!"

    But it's okay, I deserved less than I got, I'll never do that again. But it was valuable to me none the less.

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    Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Brittany - 10-06-2009, 04:51 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-06-2009, 05:23 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Lavazza - 10-06-2009, 05:57 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Brittany - 10-06-2009, 06:12 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-06-2009, 07:53 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Eddie - 10-06-2009, 06:15 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Monica - 10-06-2009, 09:10 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-06-2009, 11:57 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by 3D Sunset - 10-07-2009, 11:24 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-07-2009, 11:39 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Brittany - 10-07-2009, 08:44 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Ali Quadir - 10-08-2009, 08:10 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by fairyfarmgirl - 10-08-2009, 08:27 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Ali Quadir - 10-08-2009, 10:07 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Richard - 10-08-2009, 03:41 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Brittany - 10-08-2009, 05:51 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Ali Quadir - 10-11-2009, 11:21 AM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by kylissa - 10-10-2009, 11:59 PM
    RE: Is this a normal part of awakening? I'm kind of scared. - by Brittany - 10-12-2009, 09:01 PM

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