10-28-2011, 07:56 PM
i didnt find this cosmic awareness source too reliable.
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past a point spiritual experience is totally dependent on the entity's mind/body/spirit complex, its past, its biases and its situation and balance at that point in time.
Quote:CAN WE TRUST HATONN?
Questioner: Oh yes, Hatonn is associated with the Ashtar Command and the Jesus Sananda on a spaceship group of Tuella. He is mentioning that Hatonn is now to be a trusted entity. I believe Hatonn to be a Reptilian entity. Is he?
Cosmic Awareness: This Awareness does not see this entity as a Reptilian entity, but neither does this Awareness fully endorse this entity as someone to be blindly trusted and obeyed. As always with any being that presents itself as a source of enlightenment, and that presents itself as a well of illumination to be drunk from, that one always queries and questions what is being offered, without abdicating their own power and their ability to discern.
Hidden Elements in the Ashtar Command
This is the time-old battle of understanding that when one puts on a pedestal an individual, a being, a concept, a group or anything that is given power over the individual, one is abdicating their own personal power to discern and to decide for themselves. This Awareness is not saying the information that Hatonn has delivered and may yet deliver does not have a benefit, but It is saying that this information must always be questioned. Certain elements of the Ashtar Command are self-serving and do indeed have that which is a hidden agenda. Their energies are more in alignment in some ways with that which is the Orion faction, the Orion energies -- not even that which is Reptilian, although the Reptilian energies are at play here also. However, even if this is so, individuals need not fall into this misleading energy, and do not need to abdicate their own power or their own discernment.
Quote:IS THERE MORE THAN ONE HATONN?
Questioner: That was excellent advice, thank you). Going back to Hatonn, is there more than one Hatonn in the sense that the Matthew material refers to Hatonn too, that often speaks through that material? Is that the same guy or is this someone different?
Cosmic Awareness: It is seen that there are several projections of this entity that refers to itself as Hatonn. It is also referred in certain areas as Atonn, but this is still the same being, Hatonn or Atonn.
Questioner: So there's more than one is that correct?
Cosmic Awareness: Historically there was that being that was known as Hatonn. The Hatonn being is still the same energy.
Quote:Why Tiger Woods Had his Painful Experience
The entity Tiger Woods is a prime example of a man who apparently had everything and yet in his pain, in his emptiness, he sought pleasure in inappropriate ways, ways that one is hard to understand, given what this individual created for himself. His was still the individual journey of the soul to have this experience, and therefore to be jealous or envious of this man would be inappropriate, for one must know why the soul needs to have the experience that is being had. In the new consciousness that will allow individuals to find the wholeness and the fulfillment of their being to strive for that which is the pleasure of the soul as it expresses itself in the reality of the experience, one will not need to bring in such pain and misery. One can create for themselves, however they choose to do it, a reality that allows for pleasure, achievement, joy and happiness as the major principles in the reality being experienced. This Awareness is complete.
Questioner: ( Thank you) That's the end of his questions. Did you wish to have a closing message for the membership please?
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(10-28-2011, 07:33 PM)Icaro Wrote:(10-28-2011, 03:57 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: That doesn't really change much, does it?Indeed. So the question becomes who is changing and why? The magnitude of what's supposedly happening according to this thread shouldn't be a subjective experience. In other words, what is felt should be independent of belief or bias if there truly is something major occurring, which we would all feel.
past a point spiritual experience is totally dependent on the entity's mind/body/spirit complex, its past, its biases and its situation and balance at that point in time.