In regards to eating meat

[Oceania]

yes animals feel emotions. yep. true dat. and plants are very much less evolved so they have probably less honed emotions. say a carrot feels something. why? is it disappointed? is it excited? angry? why would a carrot be anything like that? it has no reason to be. it doesn't even have a brain. it has existence, pure and simple. and thus it is very tuned to its environment. the ego, the mind, the more we accumulate the less aware we are of the surroundings. plants are probably empathic because they're zen creatures. they don't judge or expect. they mirror what's around. they have no ego, really. the ego of a carrot is puny at best. that means less emotion.

i also found DW's logic in the book faulty, dealing with the plants. the shrimp confused me.