11-02-2011, 02:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2011, 02:30 AM by ThatZenGuy.)
(11-02-2011, 01:19 AM)Icaro Wrote: ........
(11-02-2011, 12:43 AM)ThatZenguy Wrote: I didn't, can you link me?
ThatZenGuy - abridgetoofar made a nice thread will all the quotes on dual bodies here http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2544
4d energies have been present for years. So the energy is available to start the formation of 4d bodies through normal genetic reproduction. People are incarnate in what are called dual-bodies..3d/4d bodies. Gradually, the bodies become more and more 4d. So there's no instant death..life goes on normally.
Since it is 2011, the 4d sphere should be fully formed by now according to Ra. Back in 1981, Ra said that the fourth density energies were having trouble totally forming the fourth density sphere because of the hostile nature of our planet, and that it should take 30 years to form itself. That is why Don asked if the harvest was going to occur in 2011..1981 + 30 = 2011. Whether or not that means the harvest "starts" in 2011 is up for debate. It's possibly relative to when the energies first appeared some 80 years ago. But when the harvest "starts" is irrelevant, because it is not a space/time event.
In looking over this question I noticed.."It is misleading to speak of gains and losses when dealing with the subject of the cycle’s ending and the green-ray cycle beginning upon your sphere. It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities. We may now address your query."
That is something more to chew on for those who still perceive the harvest as an event. Ra is alluding to the fact that there is no instant death or short period for the harvest, and that there indeed is catalyst that will be available in the progressive cycles ahead that will not go to waste.
Thanks for the insight and reminder of the 3D/4D dual bodies. I forgot about those. Again, this seems like these are from beings that have graduated from their 3D bodies of earth and are given a choice to come back into 3D earth as a dual body. This is possible because earth is also 4D in time/space. This gives them a chance to start their 4D work of STO and start their work in compassion, love and understanding.
I know we are all not going to just drop down and everyone will die. But how do you explain 7 billion people where less than 50% do not qualify to be Harvested to 4D? Where are they going to go? How long will it take them to naturally graduate to 4D? It took 25,000 years for us to get to this point and we are still less than half harvest-able. I don't think this change is going to take that long to occur. It will be in the span of the next 1-2 years. That is a huge shift and an "event" if i can call it that. So it's not gradual and it's not life as usual for the next 100-700 years. Why even talk about a Harvest at all if that was the case?
I think the event will be a change in how our bodies will become, upgrade in DNA and to be more of a light/energetic body than a chemical body. People's vibrations are changing and their consciousness are raising. This is changing at an exponential rate.
The wave of energy coming from the center of the galaxy might have something to do with it and the harvest. It's upgraded DNA a before, it might just do it again. This wave is like a hand on a clock that hits at a certain hour.
(11-02-2011, 02:16 AM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:(11-02-2011, 01:35 AM)unity100 Wrote: please provide some summary of important key information so we can judge the reliability before going into reading in length.
Depending on one's English reading speed, the free online preview would take about 10 - 30 minutes to read. That would probably give you the best feel for what she is saying.
The majority of the book is from transcripts of 30 hypnosis sessions which began right around the same time as the transmission of the Ra Material. For a long time, Dolores did a bunch of past life regressions but she was then able to work with her clients at a much deeper level of hypnosis.
What happened was she started to contact what at first appeared to be other beings entirely, but turned out to be more like the person's Higher Self. Though she calls it the "SC".
Anyhow, in the transcripts when she gets to the level of the SC with her clients there is a clear distinction in the awareness and clarity of the speaker. It is really obvious. The client will often be wandering confused around a past life memory and then the SC swoops in.
The SC always seems to know exactly what is going on with the person's situation and how to remedy it. Often times the remedy is offered directly from the SC, and multiple people have reported spontaneous healings of psychological and physical ailments.
So there are documented 30 "different" sources which are basically saying the same thing Ra said with respect to certain points.
1. The call went out with the detonation of nuclear weapons.
2. Using nuclear weapons violates certain cosmic laws which supercede entities' free will.
3. Earth was placed under quarantine.
4. Plans were put in place to bring humanity back to unity consciousness.
5. There will be a sifting/separation/harvesting of souls.
The interesting thing is that each of these sources is very different in certain respects. Each person's SC is as unique as their own personality. Yet they are all basically saying the same thing. They are all congruent with each other on these above points, and several others.
Again, I would recommend to take the time to read the preview. Or alternatively watch her Project Camelot interview:
I just finished her book, The Three Waves of Volunteers it was a great read and the information matches what Ra says. Some of the souls even said there were incarnates from the federation and they abide by the Law of One. It also speaks of all these Souls incarnating at this period of time from across all dimensions and planets just to witness the events that will be unfolding and to help out by being here and spreading their love, light and vibration. Even if they only get a life that lives a couple hours and die. The speak of this event as a rare event because of what Earth is trying to do herself by raising her own level to 4th Density.