Quite interesting - Mayan day/nights and earth periods

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you have gone at length of almost invalidating entirety of Ra material due to that approach before, and now you are going the way of abstracting and mystifying everything to sublime concepts in order to be able to abstract harvest event also.

So then, how long should we expect this reality to last? When will it end? Let's get this on record. In 5 years we can discuss this.

elaborate the reality you are speaking of and i will reply.

There is no difference between "instant" and "gradual" if "instant" is indefinitely projected into the future. It's perpetual incipience of the "event" unfolding according to hyper-intuitive notions of transcendence or pareidolia of current events matching expectations of awakening-to-higher-vibrational behavior. Framing, which by now, over 30 years, is becoming trite and shallow.

in short, you are basically saying that whole Ra material is just intellectual 'fluff' that can be relegated to the psychological subconscious with no reliability or real-world impact.

And earlier, you said I didn't trust the Ra Material... As if your interpretation was "the" interpretation, somehow? Anyway, the so-called "real-world" impact is as it is. It's almost as if you think you're somehow doing a valuable service by insisting on the importance of completely transient events. As if the whole of Ra Material was being reduced to the act of foretelling and prophecy and not about learning.

this case is not a matter of interpretation or belief. you are basically relegating everything told in the material to a subconscious/abstract/non-impacting status in regard to physical manifestation on this planet.

there is endless amount of information that is directly descriptive of existing situations, conditions, and events in that material, regarding this planet. this range from pyramids, to psychotronic weapons, to ex. u.s. presidents.

It's not that difficult. Whatever one perceives important is relevant, others things not. If it finally takes physically-fashioned catalyst to SEE something happen, then something definitely must have been ignored along the way.

i specifically emphasized SEE, so that you wouldnt fall into 'perception' pit again. however, you still did.

the things that i mention in regard to seeing, are not things that people can just ignore or not perceive or perceive in the fashion they please. im not talking about events happening in that country, or this country, or change of attitude in people, this or that. im talking about real phenomenon.

Out of pure curiosity, what would one consider a safe amount of time before either re-interpreting the Ra material or disowning it completely if we see nothing noticeable happen as far as "harvest" goes, for the "instant" school of thought? The question is hypothetical, and while I know some don't even consider the possibility, I would like to understand that perspective.

entities who are on a level that could be aware of the harvest consciously would not need to do anything about it - what will be necessary for them would probably be what to do with their new situation/state and it brings. we could see some of them leave. either to go away because they are from higher densities or to reincarnate into 3-4d bodies here. it is possible that we may see some of those who are in wanderer status leave, even if they are not harvestable/harvested, or are not in a position to be aware of any process.

But as has been pointed out frequently, "all are harvested regardless of progress." Taking the standpoint that harvest is an inescapable event that will have noticeable effect on everyone's lives (even in space/time), at what point is the material to be re-interpreted or abandoned? Say we get to the end of 2012 and there are no noticeable spiritual changes and life seems to be the same as it has always been. How much longer will you (any firm believer in an instant and noticeable harvest) wait for an event?

that depends on how the harvest will impact entities that are not harvestable, or of lower vibrations. the realization, awareness, following of the events and the material and their rejection would follow a vibratory ladder :

3-4d transitory entities were already living in a reality that overlapped the accustomed reality of this society and surpassing it, ranging from paranormal phenomenon to their bodily conditions, emotions, their strength of character/will and many other traits.

wanderers, it is rather hard to determine their situation. what would determine their situation would be the vibration they were able to vibrate in probably. a wanderer who got mixed and lost in the 3d society, may be affected as a planetary entity and its experience would probably be same with them. for wanderers who had successfully raised their vibration, the impact on them would be in accordance with their vibration levels. these group of entities, i presume, will get easily affected by paranormal phenomenon during harvest and the times leading up to and following it. at this point, for them, anything goes.

for entities who are harvestable, if an intelligent infinity contact happens, this would be something that would totally eclipse everything in their life. they may choose to suppress what they lived and try to oblige with the existing habits of society. but, from experience i can tell you that this is very, very hard, and those who do it - i can tell from one person i know who did it - get into very, very dysfunctional and hard position for a human being. i dont think these entities would need to be told anything happened either. intelligent infinity contact has an impact like a truck.

if, harvestable entities do not necessarily make contact with intelligent infinity, but, instead harvesters deciding that the entity is harvestable can suffice - and if it is even possible in the first place -, then the entity may not feel anything in conscious life. but, it is very highly likely that entity would feel something quite profound and considerable in waking life, due to events that transpired in time/space in harvest. i have to say that i find this rather unlikely since the harvest seems to necessitate intelligent infinity contact. cant be certain though.

for entities who are near harvestable, they may experience various strong situations, fluctuations and whatnot, this can have a huge impact on their waking life. i think this crowd will be rather considerably affected due to being close to harvestable, but on the border. these may or may not become aware that something is happening.

for entites nowhere near harvest, there will probably be various strong emotions or character changes or things the entity may or may not notice, or others may notice.

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so, the entities that are lower in the vibration ladder above, would readily and speedily ignore/reject/disown anything faster than the ones higher in the ladder. actually, many already do.

however one thing complicates this situation and introduces a lot of entropy - the affinity of any given mind/body/spirit complex as they manifest in this society, for things that are of paranormal or spiritual nature.

so, even a 3d nonharvestable entity may experience a lot of paranormal/spiritual things that could be quite considerable in impact if the entity's particular mind/body/spirit complex as it lives in this incarnation and time has an affinity or an opening through the veil.

for entities who are 3-4d, i expect this to be rather a constant possibility.

for wanderers who had been able to raise their vibrations, actually anything goes. a wanderer with lower vibrations or a wanderer who got mixed up with the planetary society, can also be drastically affected due to its past and its spiritual biases/sensitivities.

however still, being consciously higher in vibratory ladder, would provide the means to consciously follow and perceive the events in an aware fashion. someone who is lower on the vibratory ladder due to any reason at that point in time, may not be able to make heads or tails of the events or any paranormal experience it goes through, due to the reduced perception/awareness that accompanies lower vibrations.

I don't understand either of these "options". If, when one dies during harvest, they qualify for the next vibration, they get a new core vibration. If the transition to the higher vibration is hundreds of years, then they (now, what Ra calls part of the "new breed") probably have only partial use of the abilities afforded to that higher vibration.

thats what you think, because apparently you have forgotten the information about harvest and transition.

vibrations are already here. its truecolor green.

the transition that is spoken about, is the transition to a 4d society, with 4d social and vibratory structure, inhabited by 4d bodies that evolved through time. it does not relate to any event during harvest, harvesters, or vibrations. it pertains to ADAPTING to those vibrations, as a society. harvest is not a transitory event - it is an event that starts the transition for 4d society. thats a whole another topic in itself, with many questions.