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    (11-07-2011, 11:20 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    (11-07-2011, 09:31 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The Green vMeme (nothing really to do with heart-chakra 'green') is the local expression of the 6th subdensity here.

    Funny you should say that because I was actually thinking it sounded a lot like what I would call "inverted green". It is like green ray energy turned inside out. Fear based love. Of course, part of the distortion is the denial that something such as fear based love actually exists.
    Of course there is fear-based love. Love is the basis for attachment in the first place.

    (11-07-2011, 11:20 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote:
    zenmaster Wrote:Many 'wanderers' or 'new-agers' are still centered at this level, still lost in inflated 'relativism'.


    I guess that makes my path here somewhat unusual because I never passed through such a level. I suppose that is why I am resistant to the notion that it is necessary and/or inevitable.

    The problem with linear depictions of spiritual growth processes is that they are wrong. BigSmile Growth occurs in a spiral because that is the nature of growth. This spiraling nature is what allows for the possibility to jump past several levels at once when certain conditions are met.
    No, it doesn't make your path unusual. You may want to look at Spiral Dynamics. We move through the subdensities in a spiral, but in cross-section it's a linear manner - and this linear progression is not necessarily in the scope of an individual lifetime. Our 'personalities' are geared towards some path of balancing which draws from one or more of these levels of awareness, as needed. Yes, we jump around depending on what aspect of our condition is called upon. We reach up and reach down. But each subdensity remains available for our mind to find some expression of a particular condition here. The lower related to survival, the higher related to 'being'. Most people are 'passing through' green vmeme all of the time, as it has a basis in archetype - it's a 'vibration' which is identified by values.

    'Green' centering is still fear-based love, but it is the first level that recognizes the value of subjective or interior reality, which of course spawns relativism/pluralism. And that recognition, when new, tends to have a spiritual numinosity which makes it 'the reality' or 'the solution' - hence the narcissism of the 'progressives'.
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