In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

Presumably nuts and seeds don't want to be eaten, either. They are alive, too, and, one would think, desire to be planted and to grow into whatever they are the seeds of.

I recommend reading The Botany of Desire for an interesting view on this.

Fruits should be OK, though, from this point of view, as long as eating them doesn't harm their seeds.

We should all be Breatharians. That's the only way out of this conundrum.

What about dairy products and non-fertile eggs? Have those been addressed in this thread? They don't require killing animals.

Every possible sub-topic has been addressed, extensively and ad nauseum, in this thread!

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Wow that was quick Monica.

Just happen to be online!

Well, firstly, if it's my experience, then I think it is more likely true than the theory of someone with an agenda,

It's not my place to judge your experience. We all form our views based on our own experiences. I am simply offering some ideas for your consideration: specifically, that there could be other causes for your experience, and that there might be solutions other than eating animals.

secondly, Carla Rueckert has also put forward this view.

I have immense respect for Carla, but Carla would be the first to say that she doesn't wish to be in a position of authority or have any sort of guru status.

Thirdly, that last point you made was didn't make much sense to me because diabetes, cancer etc. can be due to almost anything.

My point was that, the logic of "This person was a vegetarian and got sick, therefore being a vegetarian isn't healthy" is faulty because the vast majority of the population eats meat and they are very, very sick, so it could just as easily be argued "Most people who eat meat have some sort of illness, therefore eating meat isn't healthy."

In addition, it has been statistically proven that risk of nearly all the major diseases increases with meat intake. There is a direct correlation between meat-eating and disease. The more meat eaten, the higher the risk. This is across the board, after other risk factors have been accounted for.