In regards to eating meat

[Monica]

Can you summarize or give a little more information about the view that is presented there?

The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World by Michael Pollan

Every schoolchild learns about the mutually beneficial dance of honeybees and flowers: The bee collects nectar and pollen to make honey and, in the process, spreads the flowers’ genes far and wide. In The Botany of Desire, Michael Pollan ingeniously demonstrates how people and domesticated plants have formed a similarly reciprocal relationship. He masterfully links four fundamental human desires—sweetness, beauty, intoxication, and control—with the plants that satisfy them: the apple, the tulip, marijuana, and the potato. In telling the stories of four familiar species, Pollan illustrates how the plants have evolved to satisfy humankind’s most basic yearnings. And just as we’ve benefited from these plants, we have also done well by them. So who is really domesticating whom?

Working in his garden one day, Michael Pollan hit pay dirt in the form of an idea: do plants, he wondered, use humans as much as we use them? While the question is not entirely original, the way Pollan examines this complex coevolution by looking at the natural world from the perspective of plants is unique. The result is a fascinating and engaging look at the true nature of domestication.

Erudite, engaging and highly original, journalist Pollan's fascinating account of four everyday plants and their coevolution with human society challenges traditional views about humans and nature. Using the histories of apples, tulips, potatoes and cannabis to illustrate the complex, reciprocal relationship between humans and the natural world, he shows how these species have successfully exploited human desires to flourish.

I found the book very intriguing and mind-expanding, as well as fun to read.

Or accept what's implied by this Ra quote: "All things in manifestation may be seen in one way or another to be offering themselves in order that transformations may take place upon the level appropriate to the action."

You know I was kidding about being Breatharian, right?

Key word here being transformations. As I've stated in this thread, we know that in 5D we will consume only a nectar. How can anyone expect to go from eating hamburgers to consuming a nectar?

Transformation.

We must transform. That doesn't happen instantly. I strongly disagree with the idea expressed in this thread that it's ok to eat whatever we lust for, including 'food' produced with obvious cruelty, because we're all gonna go poof into 4D anyway and then we "won't want that stuff anymore."

If we know the goal is to eventually consume only nectar, and beyond that energy itself, then it makes sense that we have to start somewhere. Some primitive humans ate other humans. But I haven't heard of many cannibals in modern society. We no longer eat other humans.

To quit eating animals is the next logical step.

Plants? People are arguing about plants when they're still eating animals? That's like arguing about eating animals, when they're still eating humans.

We need to start someplace...and transform. It's an evolutionary process.

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My wife has been vegetarian for over 30 years. During our incident with the NICU we found that her breast milk was waaay more nutrient dense than the average eater. I would even venture to say higher density than many vegetarians, simply a result of a difference in knowledge of nutrients. We actually fought the doctors, their standards, and won, while proving them wrong in the process.

Cool!

You can live on fruit loops and be considered a vegan. Vegan/vegetarian is not synonymous with knowledge/understanding how/what to eat.

Exactly! There are 'vegetarians' who eat junk food, or even smoke cigarettes.

I am a type O blood type. I switched my diet as a result of health problems, which for some odd reason have all vanished.

So you are living proof that type O's can thrive on a veg diet!

My husband is type O also. He was 95% vegetarian (fish once a week) for 25+ years, and has now been 100% vegetarian, vegan actually, for the past year. He feels better than ever!

But we do a lot of juicing, and we consume some superfoods like bluegreen algae. And we are moving towards high raw. Not because he's type O - I really think that whole blood type thing is bogus - but because the foods are so depleted it's a good idea to do a lot of juicing, sprouting and superfoods, regardless of blood type.

If there is concern about meat cravings, presumably due to blood type, then superfoods solve that problem.

This totally blows away any question about the adequacy of a raw vegan diet:

http://www.markusrothkranz.com/muscledvd...ledvd.html

(when done properly of course)

I understand that the majority have no interest in evolution.

Obviously B4 members have an interest in evolution. But the whole meat issue seems to be a blind spot.