I would like to rephrase, and repeat a bit of what I wrote much earlier in this thread, in an effort to clarify.
If you (hypothetical "you" not directed toward anyone in particular) imagine a future existence, say, in a higher density, or whatever highly evolved future you might imagine, would eating animals be part of it (including the fear it creates)? If not, wouldn't you want to take steps toward this better, greater, more evolved future and be a part of its creation? Or would you want to continue eating meat, and especially meat that comes from horrible cruelty, because you like the way it tastes?
How can it be said, or even thought, that diet has nothing to do with evolution? Everything has to do with evolution. Nothing in the universe is static; change is inevitable and unstoppable, and all is in constant flux. It seems to me that we are directing the change, whether consciously or not. And the individuals on this site would most likely be aware that they have the ability to consciously create.
Do you mean it's ironic because vegetarians are in denial?
And I take issue with my comments being called "ignorant." Firstly, I said it was my "guess" rather than a statement. Secondly, I have had many years experience discussing this issue, so I am not ignorant, in that I heard the opposite arguments of those discussions and I am entitled to my assessment of the same. It doesn't mean that I am right, but I am not ignorant in this case.
This is apparently a very touchy issue, which triggers a lot of emotion. Does anyone have any speculations as to why?
If you (hypothetical "you" not directed toward anyone in particular) imagine a future existence, say, in a higher density, or whatever highly evolved future you might imagine, would eating animals be part of it (including the fear it creates)? If not, wouldn't you want to take steps toward this better, greater, more evolved future and be a part of its creation? Or would you want to continue eating meat, and especially meat that comes from horrible cruelty, because you like the way it tastes?
How can it be said, or even thought, that diet has nothing to do with evolution? Everything has to do with evolution. Nothing in the universe is static; change is inevitable and unstoppable, and all is in constant flux. It seems to me that we are directing the change, whether consciously or not. And the individuals on this site would most likely be aware that they have the ability to consciously create.
(11-13-2011, 01:35 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I think saying that meat eaters are in denial is an ignorant and ironic statement.
Do you mean it's ironic because vegetarians are in denial?
And I take issue with my comments being called "ignorant." Firstly, I said it was my "guess" rather than a statement. Secondly, I have had many years experience discussing this issue, so I am not ignorant, in that I heard the opposite arguments of those discussions and I am entitled to my assessment of the same. It doesn't mean that I am right, but I am not ignorant in this case.
This is apparently a very touchy issue, which triggers a lot of emotion. Does anyone have any speculations as to why?