11-13-2011, 06:10 AM
(11-13-2011, 02:26 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(11-13-2011, 01:20 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: What is cruel to other beings? You mean beings that you consider higher evolved than other beings. That just takes us back to the original post. Plants are beings.
Is this directed to me or to Diana?
Can you define being?
Is a blade of grass a being? When you cut your grass, is each blade of grass writhing in agony?
Do you have any house plants? When you plant an ivy cutting, is it a separate being from the plant you cut it from?
Have you ever had a garden? Did you watch the lettuce grow? Does the lettuce plant suffer when you tear off a few leaves for your salad?
What are the boundaries of beingness?
When does life force become a separate, sentient entity?
(11-13-2011, 01:20 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I just pointed out to you specific chosen words that are doing nothing of explaining why they have chosen certain things, but instead are saying why others are not good enough. You down right ignored it.
I honestly have no idea what you're referring to. Can you please clarify?
I don't always respond to every single sentence you post. But then, you don't either.
Monkey, you seem to be feeling judged. No one has judged you. Maybe the feeling of judgment is coming from within?
(11-13-2011, 01:20 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Plants are beings.
You seem to be arguing against eating plants.
Can you explain to me how, if eating plants is just as 'wrong' as eating animals, that makes it ok to eat animals?
Seriously. I'm really confused by this. I am trying to understand you.
(11-13-2011, 01:35 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I think saying that meat eaters are in denial is an ignorant and ironic statement.
Not you, Austin. You aren't in denial at all. Diana and I were speaking in general terms. Most meat-eaters seem to be trying to justify their actions.
Not you. You are clearly very aware.
I'm really sorry, Monica. I feel like unity100 must feel sometimes because the only thing I can say is that you haven't followed the conversation at all. I am constantly retracing the steps only to be met with the same one liners you write.
I answered your question about cruelty to beings, and elaborate that you have a Personally subjective definition of what a being is. Then you ask me to define being! WTF? Then you try to give examples of why plants are not beings, and then ironically say that meat eaters are the ones in denial are are justifying. That is rich. But, I suppose the one who is actually in denial is the one who is blinded.
I have acknowledged that killing animals is nasty business. I also acknowledge that plants are beings too. I accept that I live in a universe where eating them both is possible and necessary. It's not an ideal world, but we don't live in an ideal world.
@Diana, to answer your question that you directed to anyone, I would not expect to eat meat on a future planet of existence in which the entire planet was created specifically to not eat meat. Personally, I do not think refraining from this current planet's ways are what will create your hypothetical world, and I don't think Ra suggested it as the method to reach Fourth Density.