Is all the talk of "activation" just bullshit to get you to look outside yourself?

[zenmaster]

I don't know if I buy that explanation, Zen... I don't understand how you can approach things as though there is a "true" way that things actually work.

What? I thought I was proposing the exact opposite. Maybe you can share how it was construed as a "true" way?

I think that there is whatever effort that can be taken by individuals to cling to their notions of the reality they expect and are comfortable with. All this talk of "possibilities", and your forgetting that WE create the possibilities.

Again, what? How am I forgetting that we create the possibilities? What exactly implies that?

An individual can create a possibility strongly enough for themselves to make it true of their own experience, I don't doubt that for a second. So should you pursue such an "activation" in whatever way resonates with you I am quite certain you would take something from the experience.

I don't think you understand my position. I know for a fact that if someone accepts something new and whatever that is congruent with their higher good that transformation will occur at some level.

That isn't to say that there probably is some BS out there and spending money on products is the last thing you should do, but there are many references to these things which do not require your wallet.

Almost all of it is BS, even what may 'work' for some person. The ideas, framing, what is purported to be so are completely transient and usually merely serve to constellate energy around an some archetype in the personal and collective unconscious. There is often a huge disconnect when such a bridge between 'heaven and earth' is constructed through their imagination. By disconnect I mean, if it works, it works mainly on an unconscious level steered by desire to see and experience change and transcendence. There is dissatisfaction with their current condition and a promise of change fed by such stories.

To many, the hows or the whys do not matter for such stories, it's the 'idea' of the story that matters. And so that is the detachment - the separation. An idea is what gets propped up or put on a pedestal due to the personal numinosity it represents. Since the story itself doesn't matter with respect to exterior things, and with respect to interior things it's like a leaf in a stream steered by winds of hope, there is no grounding or discernment.

The ideas are purposely kept vague (accessible as intuitive apprehension only) and inflated in order to prevent the very transcendence (transformation of mind) it is meant to perform.