(11-13-2011, 10:59 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I invite you to read this entire thread.
What does that mean? You've said that many times.
It's only an invitation, Monkey. There is a wealth of discussion in this thread, with many points that you brought up, explored extensively by both sides of the debate.
(11-13-2011, 10:59 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: You claim evolving means stopping animal cruelty. I say it is no different a justification than plant cruelty.
Yes, you've made that clear. OK, then I am curious what you say to the fact that eating animals kills more plants? and the best way to reduce cruelty to plants is to quit eating animals?
(11-13-2011, 10:59 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Why should you accept it? I'm not telling you to accept it. I do accept it. I do know that Ra says acceptance is key.
Acceptance doesn't mean continuing to make choices that are incompatible with the STO path. Ra also talked about STO, and about choice. We've discussed this before, Monkey, and never reached any understanding.
(11-13-2011, 10:59 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I do know they didn't say not to eat meat.
They didn't say not to steal either, or not to lie or cheat, or any number of other things. Ra gave us some very advanced information. Ra didn't dictate our choices, and in fact advised us to make our own choices.
However, in the single reference to meat, Ra did say "animal products as necessary" so if you want to follow Ra's words as authoritative, then that clearly says not to eat animal products unless necessary.
For most people, eating meat isn't necessary.
(11-13-2011, 11:07 PM)Oceania Wrote: no the plants want their fruit to spread their seeds.
Pooping out seeds provides great fertilizer for the plants to grow! Lots of plants sprout in bird poop!
(11-13-2011, 11:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote:(11-13-2011, 11:05 PM)yossarian Wrote: She's saying your point about plant cruelty has been addressed in this thread already.
I know. But so have every one of her points.
AND the points from those who think eating animals is ok! This thread isn't just MY thread! There are lots of people participating, providing different viewpoints. The best way to understand the issue is to consider all the viewpoints.
(11-13-2011, 11:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Obviously, reading the thread amounts to nothing.
How is that obvious? Why are you here, posting, then?
(11-13-2011, 11:10 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: No, I mean it sounds like "you are just repeating already posted points. Read it, and you might stop reiterating".
You can keep reiterating if you like. But it's unreasonable to expect answers, that were already posted previously. It's unreasonable to expect people to repeat what they've already said, just because you don't want to take the time to read the entire thread. (I'm sounding like unity100 here and I agree with him on this point.)
(11-13-2011, 11:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Yet, her having read it hasn't stopped her.
Stopped me from what? I only answer new posts. I don't repeat old stuff unless it gets brought up again. I'm interested in a discussion that progresses, not repeats.
(11-13-2011, 11:07 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: So, my question to her still remains.
What question? I'm totally clueless, Monkey.